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Except that massive app ecosystem is designed for small screen phones and single window design. It also hasn't helped Windows Mobile at all with it's "massive"

by SG- 11y ago

Except that massive app ecosystem is designed for small screen phones and single window design. It also hasn't helped Windows Mobile at all with it's "massive" desktop ecosystem.

derefr 11y ago
Small-screen phones and medium-screen tablets. And some netbooks. Pretty much the same as the set of devices Windows 8's Metro UI was designed for. Look what Windows 10 did with Metro apps: it took those "single-window designs" and just... stuck them in regular windows. And that works pretty well, it turns out.
- Piskvorrr 11y ago
  So...we went from windowed apps to fullscreen apps and thence to windowed apps. Yaaaaay, fabulous progress! ;)
  - moviuro 11y ago
    From mainframes to Personal computers to Citrix. Progress too ;)
746F7475 11y ago
Imo if you can run existing Android apps in resizable windows it would be a huge win. There are many well made Android apps that would work just fine as their own windowed applications
- on_and_off 11y ago
  some would definitely work pretty well. Several streaming services have native apps on both mobile & desktop. I think that their mobile apps could run pretty well on desktop. For many complex apps though (like anything dealing with text edition), the lack of hover & right clics handling would be a pain. Android supports 'hover' events (and since API 1 IIRC) but nobody implements them in custom widgets. Android supports mouse input but even as an android engineer I have no idea what the right click does in that situation.
  - 746F7475 11y ago
    I know this is a cop-out, but wouldn't Google Docs work just fine in the browser here. I mean I haven't done any work on Google Docs, but I did use it all the way through uni. Or maybe we should just force everyone on Vim and world would be more glorious and productive place.... right?
  - yincrash 11y ago
    http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/MotionEvent.html#BUTTON_SECONDARY http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/MotionEv... BUTTON_SECONDARY is reported in the getButtonState() of the MotionEvent, but I'm not sure most apps ever check that. I would guess in a lot of cases, if there is only checking on pointer down and up, it will act like the left mouse button.
nailer 11y ago
Not sure Windows is similar: Windows Phone has very few apps, Windows 8 desktop has very few 'modern' apps which can handle being distributed through an app store. Neither can leverage the other because there's nothing to leverage.

by SG- 11y ago

Except that massive app ecosystem is designed for small screen phones and single window design. It also hasn't helped Windows Mobile at all with it's "massive" desktop ecosystem.

derefr 11y ago

Small-screen phones and medium-screen tablets. And some netbooks. Pretty much the same as the set of devices Windows 8's Metro UI was designed for. Look what Windows 10 did with Metro apps: it took those "single-window designs" and just... stuck them in regular windows. And that works pretty well, it turns out.

Piskvorrr 11y ago
So...we went from windowed apps to fullscreen apps and thence to windowed apps. Yaaaaay, fabulous progress! ;)
- moviuro 11y ago
  From mainframes to Personal computers to Citrix. Progress too ;)

746F7475 11y ago

Imo if you can run existing Android apps in resizable windows it would be a huge win. There are many well made Android apps that would work just fine as their own windowed applications

on_and_off 11y ago
some would definitely work pretty well. Several streaming services have native apps on both mobile & desktop. I think that their mobile apps could run pretty well on desktop. For many complex apps though (like anything dealing with text edition), the lack of hover & right clics handling would be a pain. Android supports 'hover' events (and since API 1 IIRC) but nobody implements them in custom widgets. Android supports mouse input but even as an android engineer I have no idea what the right click does in that situation.
- 746F7475 11y ago
  I know this is a cop-out, but wouldn't Google Docs work just fine in the browser here. I mean I haven't done any work on Google Docs, but I did use it all the way through uni. Or maybe we should just force everyone on Vim and world would be more glorious and productive place.... right?
- yincrash 11y ago
  http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/MotionEvent.html#BUTTON_SECONDARY http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/MotionEv... BUTTON_SECONDARY is reported in the getButtonState() of the MotionEvent, but I'm not sure most apps ever check that. I would guess in a lot of cases, if there is only checking on pointer down and up, it will act like the left mouse button.

nailer 11y ago

Not sure Windows is similar: Windows Phone has very few apps, Windows 8 desktop has very few 'modern' apps which can handle being distributed through an app store. Neither can leverage the other because there's nothing to leverage.