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Are there any findings about whether such godawful class names affect rendering performance? I mean just matching strings such as this one: com-google-api-expl

Are there any findings about whether such godawful class names affect rendering performance? I mean just matching strings such as this one: com-google-api-explorer-client-history-EmbeddedHistoryItemView_HistoryItemUiBinderImpl_GenCss_style-showHideHeaders It's generally really hard for me to take HTML advice from google seriously, their page sources at best look mediocre, and at worst they make my eyes bleed. How can code so complicated lead to such bland looking pages? I know I'm kind of being snarky, but I can't help it. Just look at the source of that page and the linked stylesheets, look at google.com, heck, if you can find me just one elegant page I'll be grateful, because to this day I haven't seen a single one.

sanxiyn 11y ago
Class names are interned (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_interning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_interning), so string length does not affect rendering performance.
laurent123456 11y ago
Also, since they are talking about optimization, I wonder why they make embedded fonts a requirement to view their plain-text page. I disable loading of fonts because it's useless and often slows everything down, and this is how their page look without these fonts: http://i.imgur.com/oDO8gRt.png http://i.imgur.com/oDO8gRt.png
- seanwilson 11y ago
  I imagine the vast majority of web users have font loading enabled so they optimised and tested for that.
  - oneeyedpigeon 11y ago
    So, ... screw the minority? Seriously, one of the benefits of the web stack is that it makes it very easy to cater for a wide variety of capabilities, rather than resorting to "Best viewed with Internet Explorer 5"-type behaviour.
    - seanwilson 11y ago
      What browser doesn't support fonts? If web developers had to support every permutation of turning off cookies, fonts, images, JavaScript, stylesheets etc. you'd never get anything done.
      - oneeyedpigeon 11y ago
        laurent123456's doesn't. And I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't countless mobile phones, console browsers, etc. that didn't. You don't need to support every permutation of each technology; provide base functionality, and enhance it using each, if it's available.
theinternetman 11y ago
> How can code so complicated lead to such bland looking pages? That also perform utterly atrociously, compare modern Google Maps to classic Google Maps. The performance difference is night and day in the favour of the old school tiles version.

sanxiyn 11y ago

Class names are interned (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_interning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_interning), so string length does not affect rendering performance.

laurent123456 11y ago

Also, since they are talking about optimization, I wonder why they make embedded fonts a requirement to view their plain-text page. I disable loading of fonts because it's useless and often slows everything down, and this is how their page look without these fonts: http://i.imgur.com/oDO8gRt.png http://i.imgur.com/oDO8gRt.png

seanwilson 11y ago
I imagine the vast majority of web users have font loading enabled so they optimised and tested for that.
- oneeyedpigeon 11y ago
  So, ... screw the minority? Seriously, one of the benefits of the web stack is that it makes it very easy to cater for a wide variety of capabilities, rather than resorting to "Best viewed with Internet Explorer 5"-type behaviour.
  - seanwilson 11y ago
    What browser doesn't support fonts? If web developers had to support every permutation of turning off cookies, fonts, images, JavaScript, stylesheets etc. you'd never get anything done.
    - oneeyedpigeon 11y ago
      laurent123456's doesn't. And I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't countless mobile phones, console browsers, etc. that didn't. You don't need to support every permutation of each technology; provide base functionality, and enhance it using each, if it's available.

theinternetman 11y ago

> How can code so complicated lead to such bland looking pages? That also perform utterly atrociously, compare modern Google Maps to classic Google Maps. The performance difference is night and day in the favour of the old school tiles version.