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That's some terrible UX.

by dplgk 11y ago

vacri 11y ago
It's an edge case.
- JeffreyKaine 11y ago
  It's an edge case of an edge case.
  - fishanz 11y ago
    But you'd think they'd do something like '200 users have liked...' A cron like every 5 minutes (or more) after the first 10 likes or something like that..
    - EmielMols 11y ago
      The problem with these systems is that batching would make the implementation more complex. Sending say 10m notifications per second in a fire-and-forget manner is easily distributable en requires little state. Batching per user would be do-able but requires thinking about distribution (messages to the same user should at some point go over the same machine) and tracking a bit of in-memory state per user. In short I can imagine the trade-off of less-optimal support for some edge cases like these.
    - dilap 11y ago
      Yeah but then is it really notification worthy? If you're that popular, you just post, and then check back in a while to see how it did. There's nothing really "notification worthy" like when it's more like 1-to-1 communication.
- Splines 11y ago
  It seems like most instragram users have over 100 followers[1], if they're all active and connected that means a sizable chunk of likes (or whatever else you can do) when you post something. Surely sending all these notifications isn't entirely free - someone else posted Snowden receiving 47 gigs of mail because of email notifications. You could do something like send notifications with some sort of back-off. Send them for 10 seconds, then back off to a minute's worth chunk, then 10 minutes, then an hour. Then again, I don't have any statistics on how much these external services actually cost, nor how often this actually does happen. Simplest thing is for instagram/twitter to not care, and to point the finger at apple/android and tell them they should have UI to squelch high-frequency notifications. [1] http://www.statista.com/statistics/419326/us-teen-instagram-followers-number/ http://www.statista.com/statistics/419326/us-teen-instagram-...
  - minimaxir 11y ago
    > It seems like most instragram users have over 100 followers[1], if they're all active and connected that means a sizable chunk of likes (or whatever else you can do) when you post something. Bad assumption, given the 90:9:1 rule (99% lurk while 1% participate) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture) 1% does mean a lot when you have millions of followers, though.
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That's some terrible UX.

by dplgk 11y ago

That's some terrible UX.

vacri 11y ago

It's an edge case.

JeffreyKaine 11y ago
It's an edge case of an edge case.
- fishanz 11y ago
  But you'd think they'd do something like '200 users have liked...' A cron like every 5 minutes (or more) after the first 10 likes or something like that..
  - EmielMols 11y ago
    The problem with these systems is that batching would make the implementation more complex. Sending say 10m notifications per second in a fire-and-forget manner is easily distributable en requires little state. Batching per user would be do-able but requires thinking about distribution (messages to the same user should at some point go over the same machine) and tracking a bit of in-memory state per user. In short I can imagine the trade-off of less-optimal support for some edge cases like these.
  - dilap 11y ago
    Yeah but then is it really notification worthy? If you're that popular, you just post, and then check back in a while to see how it did. There's nothing really "notification worthy" like when it's more like 1-to-1 communication.
Splines 11y ago
It seems like most instragram users have over 100 followers[1], if they're all active and connected that means a sizable chunk of likes (or whatever else you can do) when you post something. Surely sending all these notifications isn't entirely free - someone else posted Snowden receiving 47 gigs of mail because of email notifications. You could do something like send notifications with some sort of back-off. Send them for 10 seconds, then back off to a minute's worth chunk, then 10 minutes, then an hour. Then again, I don't have any statistics on how much these external services actually cost, nor how often this actually does happen. Simplest thing is for instagram/twitter to not care, and to point the finger at apple/android and tell them they should have UI to squelch high-frequency notifications. [1] http://www.statista.com/statistics/419326/us-teen-instagram-followers-number/ http://www.statista.com/statistics/419326/us-teen-instagram-...
- minimaxir 11y ago
  > It seems like most instragram users have over 100 followers[1], if they're all active and connected that means a sizable chunk of likes (or whatever else you can do) when you post something. Bad assumption, given the 90:9:1 rule (99% lurk while 1% participate) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture) 1% does mean a lot when you have millions of followers, though.
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