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I worry about Tor's security: 1) For security, most systems rely on their obscurity and on the fact that the assets they protect probably aren't worth much inv
by hackuser 11y ago
I worry about Tor's security:
1) For security, most systems rely on their obscurity and on the fact that the assets they protect probably aren't worth much investment by the attackers. Tor can't rely on either of those circumstances: It's prominent and breaking into it is a one-stop solution to attacking many valuable targets.
2) Many organizations with large amounts of resources, from state intelligence agencies to law enforcement to security vendors to ISPs, would like to find solutions to hacking Tor security inexpensively.
3) True security is very difficult and expensive. For Tor, this is taken to an extreme by #2. Does the Tor Project have the resources to implement bug-free software (e.g., the kind that flies passsenger planes)? Certainly not. Can they find and fix bugs as quickly as the attackers described above find and exploit them? Certainly not. I'm not criticizing them; they just don't have the resources.
4) Assuming the underlying concept of onion routing is secure, there still are plenty of targets for attacks such as implementation and all the other code Tor relies on (e.g., almost all of Firefox for the Tor Browser, encryption algorithms, your OS, etc.). Attacking a Tor user doesn't seem impossible.
Based only on the theorizing above, and not knowing about Tor's actual implemenation, I fear that we're lucky if Tor still is expensive to attack. Of course, any smart attacker with an exploit will publicly complain how hard Tor is to hack.
- baby 11y agoIf you look at Tor's concept. It's pretty clear that it cannot be considered secure. Each time you use tor your packets actually go through a path of 3 different servers (or relays). If the attacker owns the two ends it's game over. How many relays are there out there? How many are owned by the NSA or other gov? It's pretty obvious that this system just cannot work because a majority of relays are owned by the attacker.