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The weird thing is when everyone else doesn't mind these, so you can't catch it with #7. My current job has stuff like: - Open office with music playing, peopl

The weird thing is when everyone else doesn't mind these, so you can't catch it with #7. My current job has stuff like: - Open office with music playing, people talk at will (RIP, focus) - Long hours that people just do willingly (i.e. no one asks them to) - Spent money on making office look nice, yet have desks from Ikea But everyone else thinks it's the best place to work ever - "OMG, let's have beers! At work! OMG!"

odonnellryan 11y ago
My desk is from Ikea! What's wrong with Ikea?! ;)
Piskvorrr 11y ago
In my experience, "beers at work" correlates with "...because we need you to stay late (because...?)," indeed. Doesn't need to be all bad - if you have nothing more interesting to do (and that's not meant ironically: building something can be pretty awesome, if you're single and work with interesting tech; OTOH, if you have other responsibilities, the attractiveness of all-night hacking sessions is...lower). The actual signs that something is amiss come when you do not volunteer your time - will your boss(es) just say "yeah, we understand that volunteering is your right"? Good. Do they say "well, we understand that not volunteering is your right"? A little weird, but still okay. Do they say "but we will pay you for the extra hours"? Red flag - does that mean that normally they wouldn't? Do they say "but everyone else does"? Big red flag, emotional manipulation attempt. Do they say "but we already promised delivery to the client"? RUN, ain't a red flag big enough for that.
Someone1234 11y ago
> Spent money on making office look nice, yet have desks from Ikea You say that like it is a bad thing. I'd take an Ikea "LINNMON" table top with their "GERTON" adjustable legs over half of the crappy desks I've had to work at. Their "BEKANT" range isn't too shabby either (inc. the BEKANT sit/stand). I'd say Ikea's office chairs are "meh" but their actual table tops/desks are definitely up to par. I wouldn't be disappointed if I rolled into an office to find them.
- cballard 11y ago
  Well, we got the cheap ones apparently, because they're tiny and they wobble.
  - Piskvorrr 11y ago
    Yeah, their cheapest stuff is worth every penny you paid for it (i.e. both of them ;)). The higher-range furniture is actually quite nice and sturdy, OTOH.

odonnellryan 11y ago

My desk is from Ikea! What's wrong with Ikea?! ;)

Piskvorrr 11y ago

In my experience, "beers at work" correlates with "...because we need you to stay late (because...?)," indeed. Doesn't need to be all bad - if you have nothing more interesting to do (and that's not meant ironically: building something can be pretty awesome, if you're single and work with interesting tech; OTOH, if you have other responsibilities, the attractiveness of all-night hacking sessions is...lower). The actual signs that something is amiss come when you do not volunteer your time - will your boss(es) just say "yeah, we understand that volunteering is your right"? Good. Do they say "well, we understand that not volunteering is your right"? A little weird, but still okay. Do they say "but we will pay you for the extra hours"? Red flag - does that mean that normally they wouldn't? Do they say "but everyone else does"? Big red flag, emotional manipulation attempt. Do they say "but we already promised delivery to the client"? RUN, ain't a red flag big enough for that.

Someone1234 11y ago

> Spent money on making office look nice, yet have desks from Ikea You say that like it is a bad thing. I'd take an Ikea "LINNMON" table top with their "GERTON" adjustable legs over half of the crappy desks I've had to work at. Their "BEKANT" range isn't too shabby either (inc. the BEKANT sit/stand). I'd say Ikea's office chairs are "meh" but their actual table tops/desks are definitely up to par. I wouldn't be disappointed if I rolled into an office to find them.

cballard 11y ago
Well, we got the cheap ones apparently, because they're tiny and they wobble.
- Piskvorrr 11y ago
  Yeah, their cheapest stuff is worth every penny you paid for it (i.e. both of them ;)). The higher-range furniture is actually quite nice and sturdy, OTOH.