I think that might be the crux of the issue. Convincing people and making a logical argument aren't the same thing and are only tangentially related. The forme

I think that might be the crux of the issue. Convincing people and making a logical argument aren't the same thing and are only tangentially related. The former requires a level of emotional intelligence and coercion in addition to any logical arguments. Why? Because people are people and they will only resent you if you just mechanically present arguments even if you're 100% right. They will look for any reason to say you're wrong even if it doesn't make sense. That's why sometimes, it's just not worth participating in some arguments. Context matters.