Slightly off-topic but holy cow, this! I've been describing this to many JS developers when it comes up and I find that many feel entirely the same way but we t

Slightly off-topic but holy cow, this! I've been describing this to many JS developers when it comes up and I find that many feel entirely the same way but we tend to not do anything about it. Gulp can use babel, babel can use webpack, webpack can do babel, it's madness frankly and yet the pattern continues. Maybe I'm beginning to become a curmudgeon but I'll just sit out of this game and use stable tooling and potentially other languages that can provide a more mature workflow. What really gets me is there are things like Dart that don't get a lot of traction though it provides mature support for a lot of the things we need to bolt on to JS to make it a usable and productive language. Not that you need those things anyway to be productive I digress.