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Websites are built on standards. Standards make them usable across lots of browsers. IE 6 doesn't adhere to standards, therefore deserves no special treatment

by jbyers 17y ago

Websites are built on standards. Standards make them usable across lots of browsers. IE 6 doesn't adhere to standards, therefore deserves no special treatment.

prodigal_erik 17y ago
IE 6 supports HTTP 1.1 and HTML 4. If your resources are completely unusable (not merely ugly) whenever optional features like scripting aren't available, maybe you can cost-justify not finishing the work, but don't blame IE when your resources don't even work in ELinks.
- ratsbane 17y ago
  Even IE6's support for HTTP 1.1 is broken. Sometimes it doesn't send host headers with redirects; there are several different scenarios in which it doesn't treat cache directives correctly; etc. Same with HTML 4. There's just no excuse for using IE6 or 7 in 2010.
  - stanleydrew 17y ago
    Wow, that's pretty bad. And this whole time I thought IE6's non-standards compliance mostly had to do with the broken box model and quirks mode...
    - prodigal_erik 17y ago
      So did I. There were so many complaints about frills you never should have relied on, that I never heard they got important things wrong too.
- dbz 17y ago
  Nah, I'll blame IE when my site works in every other browser besides IE. IE doesn't follow standards. IE8 doesn't follow standards. Any argument you make about it being my fault is going to be wrong because IE just doesn't follow standards. And "optional" languages provide a(n) UI. You may prefer to not build those into your sites, but most of the development world would disagree with you.
- InclinedPlane 17y ago
  IE6 doesn't support HTML 4 properly and it especially doesn't support CSS 2.1 properly. The effect is that whereas normally the cost to support a given browser is relatively low (especially more standards compliant browsers such as those based on webkit) the cost to support IE6 is very high, especially if you demand that the appearance on IE6 should be treated with equal importance as other browsers. The result is that even though IE6 usage is maybe 20% of internet users as a whole (and perhaps less on a given website), supporting those users is vastly more expensive than supporting other users.

by jbyers 17y ago

Websites are built on standards. Standards make them usable across lots of browsers. IE 6 doesn't adhere to standards, therefore deserves no special treatment.

prodigal_erik 17y ago

IE 6 supports HTTP 1.1 and HTML 4. If your resources are completely unusable (not merely ugly) whenever optional features like scripting aren't available, maybe you can cost-justify not finishing the work, but don't blame IE when your resources don't even work in ELinks.

ratsbane 17y ago
Even IE6's support for HTTP 1.1 is broken. Sometimes it doesn't send host headers with redirects; there are several different scenarios in which it doesn't treat cache directives correctly; etc. Same with HTML 4. There's just no excuse for using IE6 or 7 in 2010.
- stanleydrew 17y ago
  Wow, that's pretty bad. And this whole time I thought IE6's non-standards compliance mostly had to do with the broken box model and quirks mode...
  - prodigal_erik 17y ago
    So did I. There were so many complaints about frills you never should have relied on, that I never heard they got important things wrong too.
dbz 17y ago
Nah, I'll blame IE when my site works in every other browser besides IE. IE doesn't follow standards. IE8 doesn't follow standards. Any argument you make about it being my fault is going to be wrong because IE just doesn't follow standards. And "optional" languages provide a(n) UI. You may prefer to not build those into your sites, but most of the development world would disagree with you.
InclinedPlane 17y ago
IE6 doesn't support HTML 4 properly and it especially doesn't support CSS 2.1 properly. The effect is that whereas normally the cost to support a given browser is relatively low (especially more standards compliant browsers such as those based on webkit) the cost to support IE6 is very high, especially if you demand that the appearance on IE6 should be treated with equal importance as other browsers. The result is that even though IE6 usage is maybe 20% of internet users as a whole (and perhaps less on a given website), supporting those users is vastly more expensive than supporting other users.