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I used to run openbsd routers, but the lack of real package management or a decent manageable upgrade story made it more trouble than it's worth. (That said, I

by ris 11y ago

I used to run openbsd routers, but the lack of real package management or a decent manageable upgrade story made it more trouble than it's worth. (That said, I'm still quite fond of openbsd, but from afar)

INTPenis 11y ago
I used to agree with you, while still running an openbsd router for home use, but the last upgrade went quite smoothly so I would say they've put a lot of work into that aspect. Yes there were manual steps to perform but they worked so well and were so simple that I couldn't help but think about automating them in a simple script. And finishing up I just did a pkg_add -u to upgrade all packages. The only thing missing from the example imo is dnsmasq, much easier and lighter to use.
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geggam 11y ago
Maybe you think about snuggling up a bit closer ? https://stable.mtier.org/ https://stable.mtier.org/
- stock_toaster 11y ago
  That is great for updates (errata, etc). I think the parent was talking about upgrades (major revisions). That said, I use openup[1] for updates and it is pretty great. I do wish the openbsd project itself adopted something similar in an official (signed) capacity. [1]: https://www.mtier.org/solutions/apps/openup/ https://www.mtier.org/solutions/apps/openup/
stock_toaster 11y ago
> I used to run openbsd routers What do you run now? I currently use FreeBSD because it has binary update/upgrade support, currently seems to have better smp than OpenBSD, and the network stack is fast. Also looking forward to some of the network performance improvements[1] coming in 11. I have been hearing good things about DragonflyBSD lately though too. [1]: https://github.com/ocochard/netbenches/tree/master/Atom_C2558_4Cores-Intel_i350/fastforwarding-pf-ipfw/results/fbsd11-routing.r287531 https://github.com/ocochard/netbenches/tree/master/Atom_C255...

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I used to run openbsd routers, but the lack of real package management or a decent manageable upgrade story made it more trouble than it's worth. (That said, I

by ris 11y ago

INTPenis 11y ago
I used to agree with you, while still running an openbsd router for home use, but the last upgrade went quite smoothly so I would say they've put a lot of work into that aspect. Yes there were manual steps to perform but they worked so well and were so simple that I couldn't help but think about automating them in a simple script. And finishing up I just did a pkg_add -u to upgrade all packages. The only thing missing from the example imo is dnsmasq, much easier and lighter to use.
- deleted 11y ago
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geggam 11y ago
Maybe you think about snuggling up a bit closer ? https://stable.mtier.org/ https://stable.mtier.org/
- stock_toaster 11y ago
  That is great for updates (errata, etc). I think the parent was talking about upgrades (major revisions). That said, I use openup[1] for updates and it is pretty great. I do wish the openbsd project itself adopted something similar in an official (signed) capacity. [1]: https://www.mtier.org/solutions/apps/openup/ https://www.mtier.org/solutions/apps/openup/
stock_toaster 11y ago
> I used to run openbsd routers What do you run now? I currently use FreeBSD because it has binary update/upgrade support, currently seems to have better smp than OpenBSD, and the network stack is fast. Also looking forward to some of the network performance improvements[1] coming in 11. I have been hearing good things about DragonflyBSD lately though too. [1]: https://github.com/ocochard/netbenches/tree/master/Atom_C2558_4Cores-Intel_i350/fastforwarding-pf-ipfw/results/fbsd11-routing.r287531 https://github.com/ocochard/netbenches/tree/master/Atom_C255...