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Maybe in ten years. Great thing about old mature technology such as C is that all gotchas have been tripped over innumerable times and are all well known and co

Maybe in ten years. Great thing about old mature technology such as C is that all gotchas have been tripped over innumerable times and are all well known and codified. Meanwhile new exciting technology like Rust contains unknown number of bugs like http://www.wabbo.org/blog/2014/22aug_on_bananas.html http://www.wabbo.org/blog/2014/22aug_on_bananas.html, undiscovered antipatterns and subtleties. My comment is not meant to bash Rust, on the contrary it is very promising and the fact that it is used to write Servo is likely to significantly speed up its maturation. But as author notes, if you are developing a project under a deadline you don't have time for bugs you didn't cause yourself. So old boring technology is the way to go.

Rusky 11y ago
That bug was almost a year before Rust 1.0 was released. At this point, Rust is being used in production outside of Servo- for example Dropbox is even using it for their core data storage code. It's certainly not as old-and-boring stable as C, but it's a lot closer than you'd think.
- dunkelheit 11y ago
  And that bug was less than a 1.5 years before now. And Rust is at version 1.5 now. And all changelog entries since version 1.0 (which was released 8 months ago) mention "multiple bugfixes". Of course, that's all subjective, but for me these facts all scream "rapid pace of development, expect multiple annoyances and a couple of major bugs for your particular use case". Dropbox is using Rust in production? Great news! But I'll wait when a thousand of organizations use Rust in production before advocating its use in my own organization. Also, judging by this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3w8dgn/announcing_rust_15/cxum0dm https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3w8dgn/announc... they had incredible rapport with the language core team. That is a luxury not every team using Rust is going to have. Still, great news. I guess I must implement some kind of little personal project in Rust and in the process help iron out a few more quirks.
  - steveklabnik 11y ago
    As a member of that core team, I would expect that we will pay just as much attention to any company that plans on using Rust in production. We're very interested in supporting companies using Rust, and making sure t works well.
- melted 11y ago
  That doesn't inspire a ton of faith in Dropbox, TBH.
  - Rusky 11y ago
    So which is it? It's impossible for anything new to be stable so Rust automatically reflects badly on Dropbox? Maybe take a look at how well Dropbox is doing and let that reflect on Rust.

Rusky 11y ago

That bug was almost a year before Rust 1.0 was released. At this point, Rust is being used in production outside of Servo- for example Dropbox is even using it for their core data storage code. It's certainly not as old-and-boring stable as C, but it's a lot closer than you'd think.

dunkelheit 11y ago
And that bug was less than a 1.5 years before now. And Rust is at version 1.5 now. And all changelog entries since version 1.0 (which was released 8 months ago) mention "multiple bugfixes". Of course, that's all subjective, but for me these facts all scream "rapid pace of development, expect multiple annoyances and a couple of major bugs for your particular use case". Dropbox is using Rust in production? Great news! But I'll wait when a thousand of organizations use Rust in production before advocating its use in my own organization. Also, judging by this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3w8dgn/announcing_rust_15/cxum0dm https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3w8dgn/announc... they had incredible rapport with the language core team. That is a luxury not every team using Rust is going to have. Still, great news. I guess I must implement some kind of little personal project in Rust and in the process help iron out a few more quirks.
- steveklabnik 11y ago
  As a member of that core team, I would expect that we will pay just as much attention to any company that plans on using Rust in production. We're very interested in supporting companies using Rust, and making sure t works well.
melted 11y ago
That doesn't inspire a ton of faith in Dropbox, TBH.
- Rusky 11y ago
  So which is it? It's impossible for anything new to be stable so Rust automatically reflects badly on Dropbox? Maybe take a look at how well Dropbox is doing and let that reflect on Rust.