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I thought this looked interesting until I read the page :- "A memory cost, which defines the memory usage, given in kibibytes " Kibibytes? Really? Can't read

by jbb555 11y ago

I thought this looked interesting until I read the page :- "A memory cost, which defines the memory usage, given in kibibytes " Kibibytes? Really? Can't read any more. I'll find something else.

spuz 11y ago
What's your objection? It should be mibibytes?
- reinhardt1053 11y ago
  mebibytes
Robin_Message 11y ago
I am quite happy that something as important as password hashing uses precisely defined technical language to describe its operation. The evaluation of which password-hashing function to use probably should not be based on the simplicity of language used in their description.
Johnny_Brahms 11y ago
Don't blame argon2, blame computer storage makers. They were the ones to go metric.
- mc808 11y ago
  The problem is that people feel ridiculous trying to pronounce "kibibyte", "mebibyte", etc. Probably the same reason "jiggabyte" never took hold except among grey old engineers. But no, I don't have a better replacement.
ybx 11y ago
You're angry because they properly measure base 2 data? Even if you disagree on how proper it is, that seems like an extremely small and unimportant qualm.
- zeveb 11y ago
  > Even if you disagree on how proper it is, that seems like an extremely small and unimportant qualm. Use of 'kibibytes' and 'KiB' reflects a fundamentally wrongheaded view of the world, either unserious or too-serious, which shouldn't be taken seriously.
  - recursive 11y ago
    Wrongheaded view of the world? When doing science, is it inappropriate to distinguish between the numbers 1000 and 1024?
    - zeveb 11y ago
      > When doing science, is it inappropriate to distinguish between the numbers 1000 and 1024? Of course not! In computers, 'kilo-' means 1,024; everywhere else it means 1,000. This is a simple rule; network-device and hard-drive manufacturers are just wrong when they violate it.
      - ybx 11y ago
        This is actually incorrect. "kilo-" always means 1000, and computers are not given some exception. 1024 is a KiB, 1000 is a KB.
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by jbb555 11y ago

I thought this looked interesting until I read the page :- "A memory cost, which defines the memory usage, given in kibibytes " Kibibytes? Really? Can't read any more. I'll find something else.

spuz 11y ago

What's your objection? It should be mibibytes?

reinhardt1053 11y ago
mebibytes

Robin_Message 11y ago

I am quite happy that something as important as password hashing uses precisely defined technical language to describe its operation. The evaluation of which password-hashing function to use probably should not be based on the simplicity of language used in their description.

Johnny_Brahms 11y ago

Don't blame argon2, blame computer storage makers. They were the ones to go metric.

mc808 11y ago
The problem is that people feel ridiculous trying to pronounce "kibibyte", "mebibyte", etc. Probably the same reason "jiggabyte" never took hold except among grey old engineers. But no, I don't have a better replacement.

ybx 11y ago

You're angry because they properly measure base 2 data? Even if you disagree on how proper it is, that seems like an extremely small and unimportant qualm.

zeveb 11y ago
> Even if you disagree on how proper it is, that seems like an extremely small and unimportant qualm. Use of 'kibibytes' and 'KiB' reflects a fundamentally wrongheaded view of the world, either unserious or too-serious, which shouldn't be taken seriously.
- recursive 11y ago
  Wrongheaded view of the world? When doing science, is it inappropriate to distinguish between the numbers 1000 and 1024?
  - zeveb 11y ago
    > When doing science, is it inappropriate to distinguish between the numbers 1000 and 1024? Of course not! In computers, 'kilo-' means 1,024; everywhere else it means 1,000. This is a simple rule; network-device and hard-drive manufacturers are just wrong when they violate it.
    - ybx 11y ago
      This is actually incorrect. "kilo-" always means 1000, and computers are not given some exception. 1024 is a KiB, 1000 is a KB.
      - deleted 11y ago
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