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>>I'm not sure how many people will be willing to [pay a tax of $100/year] just to start learning about programming. Huh, learning? That is like saying people

by berntb 17y ago

>>I'm not sure how many people will be willing to [pay a tax of $100/year] just to start learning about programming. Huh, learning? That is like saying people won't buy a car so they can learn to drive... :-) A user could have an iPad to write and/or run suitable scripting programs. Like emacs. [Edit: Or other programs written with Perl/Python/Ruby/Lisp etc.] If that is worth a tax of 8-9$/month will vary between users.

bad_user 17y ago
> If that is worth a tax of 8-9$/month will vary between users. And between teenagers who may or may not have access to dad's credit card, or between countries who may or may not have access to that program ;) This also means that a user won't be able to install some software with a single click ... he'll have to first go through the registration process, with a valid credit-card, and some time on his hands. I really don't know why people try to downplay this. If this model gets popular (and it already is to some extent because of the iPhone) ... devs and many regular users simply get proper fucked.
- berntb 17y ago
  >> This also means that a user won't be able to install some software with a single click >> ... many regular users simply get proper fucked. My point was to suggest automation of the process. I didn't imply that this would be painless, just less painful than jailbreaks. If it becomes common, even Steve Jobs will have to give in and have a simple checkbox for allowing scripting apps. (Like different sets of installable applications in Debian/Ubuntu).
wizard_2 17y ago
If I recall you can't use any scripted languages on the ipod as part of the developers license. Has that changed?
- dagw 17y ago
  You can't distribute any scripting language interpreter (and thus no apps written in a scripting language) via the app store. However there is no reason why you cannot install a scripting language and use it on your own phone if you have the dev tools.

by berntb 17y ago

bad_user 17y ago

> If that is worth a tax of 8-9$/month will vary between users. And between teenagers who may or may not have access to dad's credit card, or between countries who may or may not have access to that program ;) This also means that a user won't be able to install some software with a single click ... he'll have to first go through the registration process, with a valid credit-card, and some time on his hands. I really don't know why people try to downplay this. If this model gets popular (and it already is to some extent because of the iPhone) ... devs and many regular users simply get proper fucked.

berntb 17y ago
>> This also means that a user won't be able to install some software with a single click >> ... many regular users simply get proper fucked. My point was to suggest automation of the process. I didn't imply that this would be painless, just less painful than jailbreaks. If it becomes common, even Steve Jobs will have to give in and have a simple checkbox for allowing scripting apps. (Like different sets of installable applications in Debian/Ubuntu).

wizard_2 17y ago

If I recall you can't use any scripted languages on the ipod as part of the developers license. Has that changed?

dagw 17y ago
You can't distribute any scripting language interpreter (and thus no apps written in a scripting language) via the app store. However there is no reason why you cannot install a scripting language and use it on your own phone if you have the dev tools.