> It would be nice to live in a society when the certainty of someone having committed a crime directly relates to the justice system's proclamation of guilt.

> It would be nice to live in a society when the certainty of someone having committed a crime directly relates to the justice system's proclamation of guilt. Such a great distillation of the national shame of the United States. Agreed! > "N Guilty Men" philosophical debates are too far above today's justice system for serious consideration. I do not concur. I think that this is exactly the kind of thinking that we need to motivate ourselves to replace the current "criminal justice" system in full.