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As a person native to russophone online culture: this "explanation" is your fantasy. It's true ukrainian coments in forums can call russia mordor, but it's not

As a person native to russophone online culture: this "explanation" is your fantasy. It's true ukrainian coments in forums can call russia mordor, but it's not an extension of any previous background. And IMHO it doesn't require explanation. BTW, I have never heard about america = valinor.

tetromino_ 11y ago
> this "explanation" is your fantasy. My educated guess :) Every meme starts from somewhere. For example, the vatnik meme did not appear fully formed from the vacuum like Venus from ocean foam; it was invented by a specific person, who was (according to interviews) influenced by Spongebob Squarepants - hence the shape. I don't know who invented the Russia/Mordor theme, but I can try to guess where in the online cultural background that existed in 2013 that person could have found their inspiration. > And IMHO it doesn't require explanation. IMHO it does require explanation. Why Mordor and not Nilfgaard or Fire Nation? Why Sauron and not Voldemort or Tywin Lannister?
free652 11y ago
I never heard a Ukrainian call Russia Mordor, nor either russian or ukrainian call USA valinor. Hell, most of the Russian speakers wouldn't probably know what Valinor means in the first place. Yea, some people call it. But they are so marginal. I agree with you, this is a specific attack against google's algorithm.
- yurish 11y ago
  Valinor - have not heard about but naming Russia Mordor is quite popular on Ukrainian unti-Russian forums.
- wodenokoto 11y ago
  We are not talking about most Russian speakers, but an Internet subculture of Russian speakers.
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gcb0 11y ago
just because You are not familiar with the sub culture that generated a pop term, doesn't mean the etymology is wrong.
- avodonosov 11y ago
  No, it's just You unfamiliar with the offline culture which really gave birth to this metaphor.

tetromino_ 11y ago

> this "explanation" is your fantasy. My educated guess :) Every meme starts from somewhere. For example, the vatnik meme did not appear fully formed from the vacuum like Venus from ocean foam; it was invented by a specific person, who was (according to interviews) influenced by Spongebob Squarepants - hence the shape. I don't know who invented the Russia/Mordor theme, but I can try to guess where in the online cultural background that existed in 2013 that person could have found their inspiration. > And IMHO it doesn't require explanation. IMHO it does require explanation. Why Mordor and not Nilfgaard or Fire Nation? Why Sauron and not Voldemort or Tywin Lannister?

free652 11y ago

I never heard a Ukrainian call Russia Mordor, nor either russian or ukrainian call USA valinor. Hell, most of the Russian speakers wouldn't probably know what Valinor means in the first place. Yea, some people call it. But they are so marginal. I agree with you, this is a specific attack against google's algorithm.

yurish 11y ago
Valinor - have not heard about but naming Russia Mordor is quite popular on Ukrainian unti-Russian forums.
wodenokoto 11y ago
We are not talking about most Russian speakers, but an Internet subculture of Russian speakers.
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gcb0 11y ago

just because You are not familiar with the sub culture that generated a pop term, doesn't mean the etymology is wrong.

avodonosov 11y ago
No, it's just You unfamiliar with the offline culture which really gave birth to this metaphor.