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Now Open – AWS Asia Pacific (Seoul) Region
- kiwidrew 11y agoMeanwhile, Google Compute Engine still only has four regions and hasn't expanded in over 18 months. (Don't get me started on App Engine, it's not even available for the Asia region!) Still no presence in the entire southern hemisphere!
- aerioux 11y agoGCE's multi-regional buckets are quite awesome though and cheaper than paying Amazon to move between regions
- eric-hu 11y agoCould you go into what the price difference is or what your use case is? Just curious in what situations I might want to consider Google over S3.
- aerioux 11y agohonestly i think http://blog.zachbjornson.com/2015/12/29/cloud-storage-performance.html http://blog.zachbjornson.com/2015/12/29/cloud-storage-perfor... does a better job than i could* * benchmarks are easily fakeable - please don't bet your company on one
- Nyr 11y agoBut Google has absolutely the best peering available, which is a great advantage for many regions.
- dmytton 11y agoGoogle added their 4th region - US East - in October last year[1] but it's true that this is poor effort compared to Azure and AWS. I wrote an article for InfoWorld about this at the end of last year: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3008617/cloud-computing/global-location-wars-amazon-vs-microsoft-vs-google.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/3008617/cloud-computing/glo... and have a map of locations at https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zV7qz2PQ6Sz4.kJHcuwnR7RZ4 https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zV7qz2PQ6Sz4.kJHcuw... [1] http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/Bringing-Google-Cloud-Platform-closer-to-more-people-and-businesses.html http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/Bringing-G...
- aerioux 11y agoCan anyone comment on their performance boosts over Tokyo/Singapore with this new region?
- Smirnoff 11y agoAnd Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan??? We have been using servers located in North Virginia so far -- it is not that bad actually, definitely better than buying hosting locally. PS: Why downvotes? If you disagree, please care to post your reasoning or experience.
- halviti 11y agoI imagine you were getting downvoted for using multiple question marks, and people not understanding you were just asking a question. Typically one question mark indicates a question. Multiple question marks usually indicates that you're upset about something or asking a rhetorical question. For example, most people distinguish a difference between sentences like: "What are you doing?" and "What are you doing???" The first indicates a question, the second indicates you are upset or that the person is doing something wrong. The way you wrote your sentence makes it look like you could be making fun of the person you are responding to.
- Symbiote 11y agoWouldn't Frankfurt or Ireland be closer than the USA?
- Laforet 11y agoAmazon has a peered connection at KNIX, although from most locations ingress traffic to the Seoul region is routed through AWS Tokyo first, so latency is probably going to be slightly worse than Tokyo unless accessed from within Korea. Pricing seems very similar if not identical to the Tokyo region, which is not surprising since bandwidth is rather expensive in SK. Overall I feel this is built to satisfy SK's data privacy laws rather than commercial reasons.
- ksec 11y agoOn the other hand, OVH will have 12 more DC open this year, Starting with Portland and Ashburn in US, then Singapore and Australia.
- bashtoni 11y agoAWS have at least 32 DCs - all regions have a minimum of two data centres for proper ha. There are four more scheduled to come online this year, India and UK. If you think ovh and aws are comparable in anything but the very broadest terms you've not understood what AWS are offering.
- stephenr 11y agoIt's not uncommon to use multiple providers, that way you don't need to rely on a single provider having multiple DC's in every location you want a presence. Plus you know, less SPOF.
- ksec 11y agoThey are not directly comparable of course. OVH currently has 15 DC, of those additional 12, most of them are in new region, Australia, Singapore, Germany, US, and I think Japan. That will make 27 DC. This isn't say they are comparable by size. Not at all. But you make it sounds like OVH is a small player. Linode, Digital Ocean are medium size. According to Netcraft AWS being first, DO recently became second, and OVH being third. But with the lots of $5 - $20VM DO host, those are VM numbers, compared to the Server Size OVH host.
- tombrossman 11y agoI would also add that since OVH own and operate a large physical network[0], they can't really be compared to a hosting-only provider like DigitalOcean. This isn't 'like for like', and is only marginally useful for ranking either company. Also, for those of us looking for server space to serve a primarily Western market, OVH and AWS are most definitely comparable. AWS have a huge and impressive range of features, most of which I simply do not need (though I'm a happy OVH, AWS, and DO customer because I'm not one to put all my eggs in one basket). [0]http://weathermap.ovh.net/ http://weathermap.ovh.net/
- eva1984 11y agoOut of curiosity, what is the biggest player in Korea for cloud computing, e.g. local ones?
- jaykwonpark 11y agoUcloud has 85% share in korean market. https://en.ucloudbiz.olleh.com/ https://en.ucloudbiz.olleh.com/
- sanxiyn 11y agoI very much doubt this. Source?
- sanxiyn 11y agoProbably one run by KT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KT_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KT_Corporation). English website here: https://en.ucloudbiz.olleh.com/ https://en.ucloudbiz.olleh.com/
- osoti 11y agomust read...its interesting http://www.osoti.net/amazing/the-most-horrifying-facts-about-titanic-all-should-know/ http://www.osoti.net/amazing/the-most-horrifying-facts-about...
- methou 11y agoRoute trace from Beijing Unicom Residential network, looks like packets are routed through japan, not sure if it's just temporary or will be improved later. (Comparing 50+ms from Beijing to other providers in Korea): 3 5 ms 6 ms 3 ms 61.148.160.169 4 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 124.65.57.117 5 6 ms 7 ms 6 ms 123.126.0.77 6 36 ms 38 ms 39 ms 219.158.7.22 7 109 ms 103 ms 105 ms 219.158.23.10 8 42 ms 39 ms 41 ms 219.158.19.81 9 165 ms 165 ms 163 ms 219.158.33.22 10 89 ms 88 ms 87 ms 106.187.6.173 11 164 ms 165 ms 168 ms 118.155.197.178 12 177 ms 177 ms 177 ms 106.187.28.90 13 94 ms 97 ms 100 ms 27.0.0.228 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 179 ms 182 ms 180 ms 54.239.123.136 16 95 ms 94 ms 93 ms 54.239.123.125 17 98 ms 133 ms 102 ms 54.239.122.226 18 161 ms 152 ms 143 ms 54.239.122.241 19 101 ms 102 ms 99 ms 54.239.122.6 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 100 ms 99 ms 100 ms my.vps.ip.addr * edit: removed my instance ip.
- yulunli 11y agoAWS(China) has been in preview for more than a year. Not sure when that will reach GA.
- TeeWEE 11y agoThe Communist Party has a lot of 'requirements'. First of all you have to offer them a sigaret.
- rahimnathwani 11y agoThanks. I came hoping for an answer to this exact question. If it's improved latency it could be a good choice for a personal VPN. BTW - which other providers in Korea would you recommend?
- jakozaur 11y agoThe availability of instance type also hints the future for other AWS regions. E.g. T2, M4, C4, I2, D2, and R3 are available, but not M3 or C3.
- cjg_ 11y agoNot that strange that they not are offering previous generation hardware at new locations.
- ebroder 11y agoI'd argue that m3 and c3 instances shouldn't be classified as "previous generation", since the m4 and c4 instances don't have any local ephemeral storage. Given the recent EBS incident in GovCloud, I think it's still pretty reasonable to be skeptical of EBS.
- frik 11y agoIs this the only source? https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3yv2db/aws_ebs_volume_data_loss_usgovcloudwest1a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3yv2db/aws_ebs_vo...
- IIAOPSW 11y agoHey AWS, fix the issue of accepting Unionpay debit cards (not just credit) and I'll start using you again.
- oblio 11y agoMan, Africa looks really sad. I was looking through their region list (http://docs.aws.amazon.com/general/latest/gr/rande.html http://docs.aws.amazon.com/general/latest/gr/rande.html) and everything is in the Americas, Europe, Asia and Australia. Africa's nowhere to be found.
- Nyr 11y agoMaybe if peering in Africa didn't suck big time and bandwidth wasn't prohibitively expensive, the situation would be different. Anyway, AWS in South Africa isn't worth it if routes to nearby countries go through London anyway (like it's currently the case).
- SideburnsOfDoom 11y agoWhat is the killer app for a hosting region in Africa? All I have seen is gamers in South Africa complaining about the ping times to servers located in EU making real-time games not worth playing for them. But that's a relatively niche market. It's ironic, as some of the AWS dev work was done there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud#H...
- simonebrunozzi 11y agoWhen I was at AWS I visited South Africa for a conference, and paid a visit to the local office in Cape Town. I don't think I can disclose any other detail (number of people, etc), but it is public knowledge that there is a substantial workforce still there, doing development and support. The problem with an AWS region in Africa is, in my view, that there's not a large market to support the idea. South Korea is for sure more interesting.
- rsync 11y agoEven more sad, according to our customers and sales leads, is the lack of a Canadian presence. It's getting harder and harder to believe that they have nothing in Canada. I think we[1] are going to open Montreal this quarter[2]. Not much help if you need EC2 style services, but if you just need to store some data in Canada ... you'll have an option. Drive-up service too.[3] [1] rsync.net. HN-readers discount. Email. [2] with he.net bandwidth @ 10gb/s [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10259763 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10259763
- TeeWEE 11y agoWhen will they start opening the inland China region?
- denisu 11y agoCensored internet access though (Korean Porn-Blocker) [ec2-user@ec2 ~]$ curl youporn.com <html><script> var arg = "http://warning.or.kr"; var str = new Array(); str = arg.split("&", 1); var a = new Array(); a = str[0].split("="); var b = Math.floor(a[1] / 100); var c = new Array(); if(b == 10){location.replace("http://www.naver.com");} else if(b == 20){location.replace("http://www.daum.net");} else if(b == 30){location.replace("http://www.paran.com");} else{ c = a[0].split("?"); location.replace(c[0]);} </script></html>