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Sounds like the beginning of an urban legend. The truth of the matter is that Facebook engineering is getting bloated just like all other big companies and thei

Sounds like the beginning of an urban legend. The truth of the matter is that Facebook engineering is getting bloated just like all other big companies and their apps crash not because they're testing user loyalty but because their code is just shitty.

ch4s3 11y ago
Their app has been crashing constantly since day 1. On high speed wifi, my newsfeed regularly takes upwards of 10 seconds to load, and the iOS app crashes like a drunk. They do some truly hard things, and coupled with their "move fast and break things" ethos... well they end up with some stability issues. I'm not sure its an issue of bloat though.
- foota 11y ago
  I use android and I've never encountered any issues of the sort you are describing. edit: grammar
- mschuster91 11y ago
  Funny enough: the FB app never crashed on me, but Twitter does reproducibly crash after about 20 actions (Android). Whatsapp however regularly loses its connection on Wifi (even when on battery, and wifi powersaving is disabled), and after 6 hours I see "oh, 20 new messages"... Problem of scale is that neither of the three (or, actually two) companies has a public bug tracker where one could report bugs and see if anything happened with it. You basically feel like you're interacting with a fucking black box.
  - MicroBerto 11y ago
    Sounds like you guys and your apps are a mess. Is this really where we wanted our mobile experience to go? You know what rarely crashes for me? m.facebook.com on a web browser. Facebook will never get installed on any device I own. Ever.
    - sbd01 11y ago
      I'm not a Facebook user myself, but I've heard that the Facebook website can now send notifications through the browser, effectively eliminating the need of a bloated, buggy app.
      - yzh 11y ago
        It's true and I find that feature very annoying. Of course I can turn it off, but they shouldn't turn it on by default IMO.
      - deleted 11y ago
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    - ianstallings 11y ago
      Okay, it's fine. But face the fact that a lot of people use applications and there is a reason for it. It's not fluff. The situation on mobile browsers and their capabilities in comparison to native applications is quite straight forward. Web browsers can't compete. Yes it is getting better. But it's hardly a replacement. We're not there yet. Not even close. A relevant article from a Mozilla developer, James Long: http://jlongster.com/Radical-Statements-about-the-Mobile-Web?utm_source=mobilewebweekly&utm_medium=email http://jlongster.com/Radical-Statements-about-the-Mobile-Web...
      - rimantas 11y ago
        yep, I ditched Facebook app and I am using web version on the phone. Experience is bad, bordering just tolerable.
    - SnaKeZ 11y ago
      Me too, i use just the mobile version of facebook.com. I know that exist Tinfoil if you concerned about privacy: https://fossdroid.com/a/tinfoil-for-facebook.html https://fossdroid.com/a/tinfoil-for-facebook.html

ch4s3 11y ago

Their app has been crashing constantly since day 1. On high speed wifi, my newsfeed regularly takes upwards of 10 seconds to load, and the iOS app crashes like a drunk. They do some truly hard things, and coupled with their "move fast and break things" ethos... well they end up with some stability issues. I'm not sure its an issue of bloat though.

foota 11y ago
I use android and I've never encountered any issues of the sort you are describing. edit: grammar
mschuster91 11y ago
Funny enough: the FB app never crashed on me, but Twitter does reproducibly crash after about 20 actions (Android). Whatsapp however regularly loses its connection on Wifi (even when on battery, and wifi powersaving is disabled), and after 6 hours I see "oh, 20 new messages"... Problem of scale is that neither of the three (or, actually two) companies has a public bug tracker where one could report bugs and see if anything happened with it. You basically feel like you're interacting with a fucking black box.
- MicroBerto 11y ago
  Sounds like you guys and your apps are a mess. Is this really where we wanted our mobile experience to go? You know what rarely crashes for me? m.facebook.com on a web browser. Facebook will never get installed on any device I own. Ever.
  - sbd01 11y ago
    I'm not a Facebook user myself, but I've heard that the Facebook website can now send notifications through the browser, effectively eliminating the need of a bloated, buggy app.
    - yzh 11y ago
      It's true and I find that feature very annoying. Of course I can turn it off, but they shouldn't turn it on by default IMO.
    - deleted 11y ago
      [deleted]
  - ianstallings 11y ago
    Okay, it's fine. But face the fact that a lot of people use applications and there is a reason for it. It's not fluff. The situation on mobile browsers and their capabilities in comparison to native applications is quite straight forward. Web browsers can't compete. Yes it is getting better. But it's hardly a replacement. We're not there yet. Not even close. A relevant article from a Mozilla developer, James Long: http://jlongster.com/Radical-Statements-about-the-Mobile-Web?utm_source=mobilewebweekly&utm_medium=email http://jlongster.com/Radical-Statements-about-the-Mobile-Web...
    - rimantas 11y ago
      yep, I ditched Facebook app and I am using web version on the phone. Experience is bad, bordering just tolerable.
  - SnaKeZ 11y ago
    Me too, i use just the mobile version of facebook.com. I know that exist Tinfoil if you concerned about privacy: https://fossdroid.com/a/tinfoil-for-facebook.html https://fossdroid.com/a/tinfoil-for-facebook.html