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Yes it was - but it didn't start with them. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was published in 1903 in Russia, kicked off that particular idea - and th

Yes it was - but it didn't start with them. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was published in 1903 in Russia, kicked off that particular idea - and the nazis just ran with what popular thought already held. Also, true - going back to my grandmother, she's a raving anti-Semite, but has a Jewish daughter in law - and (now deceased) husband. The cognitive dissonance required is incredible, but common. She'll rant over the dinner table about "the Jews" who are ruining the world - always followed up with a "not you, dear".

gizmo686 11y ago
I do not think that necessarily relies on cognitive dissonance. For example, there are plenty of example you can point to of an American conspiracy to overthrow governments, but it is not not cognitive dissonance to believe that a particular American was not involved in it. The only reason that this logic does not apply to Jews is that their is no central hierarchy to Judaism, however it is still possible to believe that there is a shadow organization that is running the world and happens to be Jewish.
- madaxe_again 11y ago
  Logic doesn't come into it. No, as far as she is concerned all Jews are part of the conspiracy, all are a drain on society. She gets around this not with "you're one of the good ones", but rather, "I like you, so you can't really be Jewish.".
erikpukinskis 11y ago
The same thing is rampant today. Rather educated, liberal people will claim that black people are, on average, more violent and less valuable as employees... but of course specific black people are fine. It's easy to do, you just have to rely on a little bad science and a lifetime of propaganda and that whole worldview seems sensible.
- zo1 11y ago
  From my point of view, the majority of the "propaganda" I witness in media in general, pushes the opposite view that you are claiming is influencing people. It's accepted ridiculously easily as well it seems to the point of being absurd. So I would say that neither side is immune to bias and propaganda. At the end of the day, I will only be against violent individuals, and not ones that hurt my feelings.
- nibnib 11y ago
  You don't understand the difference between averages and specific cases? Black people are, on average, taller... but specific black people are short.
- Chris2048 11y ago
  Wouldn't doing the opposite to this be: to extrapolate what black people are like, based entirely on the ones you know?

gizmo686 11y ago

I do not think that necessarily relies on cognitive dissonance. For example, there are plenty of example you can point to of an American conspiracy to overthrow governments, but it is not not cognitive dissonance to believe that a particular American was not involved in it. The only reason that this logic does not apply to Jews is that their is no central hierarchy to Judaism, however it is still possible to believe that there is a shadow organization that is running the world and happens to be Jewish.

madaxe_again 11y ago
Logic doesn't come into it. No, as far as she is concerned all Jews are part of the conspiracy, all are a drain on society. She gets around this not with "you're one of the good ones", but rather, "I like you, so you can't really be Jewish.".

erikpukinskis 11y ago

The same thing is rampant today. Rather educated, liberal people will claim that black people are, on average, more violent and less valuable as employees... but of course specific black people are fine. It's easy to do, you just have to rely on a little bad science and a lifetime of propaganda and that whole worldview seems sensible.

zo1 11y ago
From my point of view, the majority of the "propaganda" I witness in media in general, pushes the opposite view that you are claiming is influencing people. It's accepted ridiculously easily as well it seems to the point of being absurd. So I would say that neither side is immune to bias and propaganda. At the end of the day, I will only be against violent individuals, and not ones that hurt my feelings.
nibnib 11y ago
You don't understand the difference between averages and specific cases? Black people are, on average, taller... but specific black people are short.
Chris2048 11y ago
Wouldn't doing the opposite to this be: to extrapolate what black people are like, based entirely on the ones you know?