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I take it you're not a cop, and don't have any cops in your family. The rule is very simple: unless you want to get shot, don't fuck with police. Pointing a toy

by melted 11y ago

I take it you're not a cop, and don't have any cops in your family. The rule is very simple: unless you want to get shot, don't fuck with police. Pointing a toy weapon at an officer counts as fucking with police in my book.

DanBC 11y ago
It's not surprising when people describe the police as a fascistic brutal regime.
- tptacek 11y ago
  I'm not sure how you can extrapolate that from one person's insensitive comment about the police.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    Because it's not just one person's insensitive comment, is it? It's a pattern of repeated behaviour. "I am the law, don't fuck with me".
    - tptacek 11y ago
      Clearly every police who believes "I'm the law don't fuck with me" fits the bill you describe, but I don't think we're close to establishing that every police believes that.
    - melted 11y ago
      Yes, that's how things are done in this country. You can fuck with them afterwards, in the court of law. When they're enforcing the law, fucking with police is the stupidest thing you can do. They have families to come back home to as well. I don't see what's so "insensitive" about that.
      - DanBC 11y ago
        > When they're enforcing the law, fucking with police is the stupidest thing you can do ...in the US. In other countries you can fuck with the police and not get killed. And, for the sake of clarity here, "fucking with the police" is for example asking if you're being detained or if you're free to go, or asking what grounds they have for a stop and search. It's baffling to me why asking police to obey the law is described, by police, as fucking with them.
        melted 11y ago
        No, I'm not talking about stop and frisk or "am I free to go". I'm talking about pointing a toy weapon at an officer when he/she can't tell if the weapon is real or not. Or reaching into the police cruiser, punching the officer in the face and attempting to grab his gun. Stuff like that.
        DanBC 11y ago
        Sure, but in this little sub-thread I'm talking about the thug officers who think that polite refusal to answer their questions is justification for police harassment. It's far too common in the US. And while it's stupid to point a gun (toy or not) at police (I agree that death is a likely result, because you should never point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them) that doesn't excuse all the people who had cell phones in their hands, or the people shot within six seconds of a police officer arriving on the scene, or the people with no weapon and their back turned. Yet in many of these cases we see officers closing ranks and claiming the victim somehow deserved it, and was somehow responsible for their death because they were arguing with police. The US is unique in first world nations in murdering its citizens. It's an abuse of human rights when it happens after lengthy court cases; I can't imagine why it's okay before an arrest is made. (Unless someone's life is in real and immediate danger).

by melted 11y ago

DanBC 11y ago

It's not surprising when people describe the police as a fascistic brutal regime.

tptacek 11y ago
I'm not sure how you can extrapolate that from one person's insensitive comment about the police.
- DanBC 11y ago
  Because it's not just one person's insensitive comment, is it? It's a pattern of repeated behaviour. "I am the law, don't fuck with me".
  - tptacek 11y ago
    Clearly every police who believes "I'm the law don't fuck with me" fits the bill you describe, but I don't think we're close to establishing that every police believes that.
  - melted 11y ago
    Yes, that's how things are done in this country. You can fuck with them afterwards, in the court of law. When they're enforcing the law, fucking with police is the stupidest thing you can do. They have families to come back home to as well. I don't see what's so "insensitive" about that.
    - DanBC 11y ago
      > When they're enforcing the law, fucking with police is the stupidest thing you can do ...in the US. In other countries you can fuck with the police and not get killed. And, for the sake of clarity here, "fucking with the police" is for example asking if you're being detained or if you're free to go, or asking what grounds they have for a stop and search. It's baffling to me why asking police to obey the law is described, by police, as fucking with them.
      - melted 11y ago
        No, I'm not talking about stop and frisk or "am I free to go". I'm talking about pointing a toy weapon at an officer when he/she can't tell if the weapon is real or not. Or reaching into the police cruiser, punching the officer in the face and attempting to grab his gun. Stuff like that.
        DanBC 11y ago
        Sure, but in this little sub-thread I'm talking about the thug officers who think that polite refusal to answer their questions is justification for police harassment. It's far too common in the US. And while it's stupid to point a gun (toy or not) at police (I agree that death is a likely result, because you should never point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them) that doesn't excuse all the people who had cell phones in their hands, or the people shot within six seconds of a police officer arriving on the scene, or the people with no weapon and their back turned. Yet in many of these cases we see officers closing ranks and claiming the victim somehow deserved it, and was somehow responsible for their death because they were arguing with police. The US is unique in first world nations in murdering its citizens. It's an abuse of human rights when it happens after lengthy court cases; I can't imagine why it's okay before an arrest is made. (Unless someone's life is in real and immediate danger).