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It's not in the same way at all. Google Fiber is real internet; 'free internet basics' are an attempt to turn the internet into a walled garden.

by mr_luc 11y ago

kuschku 11y ago
> Google Fiber is real internet Minus the things their ToS forbids. Only recently they started allowing you to host game servers, for Minecraft, for example. Their Fiber team heavily opposes Net Neutrality, too. Sadly.
- DannyBee 11y ago
  "Minus the things their ToS forbids. Only recently they started allowing you to host game servers, for Minecraft, for example. " Basically no residential ISP in the US i'm aware of allows server hosting. Certainly no major ones :)
  - thescriptkiddie 11y ago
    If this is true then they must be doing a pretty good job of turning a blind eye.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Just because everyone does it doesn’t mean it’s good. Now, that IPv6 is becoming more popular, and we might be able to provide globally unique IPs for every end device, and that 24/7 connected internet is standard, it should be a thing of 2 or 3 clicks to host a webserver. It should be a no-op to set up a raspberry pi to serve websites – and it would definitely provide a lot of kids and students the ability to experiment a lot easier. Remember, Facebook in its early days was hosted from a dorm room at college. Google from a garage.
- stevenwliao 11y ago
  As stated, the Google Fiber restrictions seem more like a QoS and bandwidth concern rather than a content concern.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Their ban on the hosting of servers – despite a common concept in the US, as it seems from sibling comments – is a content concern. They directly say if you wish to do say, you should pay extra for this extra feature. It’s exactly the "Pay 5$ extra for Netflix on Verizon" concept we all complain about, but which everyone somehow accepts here.

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It's not in the same way at all. Google Fiber is real internet; 'free internet basics' are an attempt to turn the internet into a walled garden.

by mr_luc 11y ago

It's not in the same way at all. Google Fiber is real internet; 'free internet basics' are an attempt to turn the internet into a walled garden.

kuschku 11y ago
> Google Fiber is real internet Minus the things their ToS forbids. Only recently they started allowing you to host game servers, for Minecraft, for example. Their Fiber team heavily opposes Net Neutrality, too. Sadly.
- DannyBee 11y ago
  "Minus the things their ToS forbids. Only recently they started allowing you to host game servers, for Minecraft, for example. " Basically no residential ISP in the US i'm aware of allows server hosting. Certainly no major ones :)
  - thescriptkiddie 11y ago
    If this is true then they must be doing a pretty good job of turning a blind eye.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Just because everyone does it doesn’t mean it’s good. Now, that IPv6 is becoming more popular, and we might be able to provide globally unique IPs for every end device, and that 24/7 connected internet is standard, it should be a thing of 2 or 3 clicks to host a webserver. It should be a no-op to set up a raspberry pi to serve websites – and it would definitely provide a lot of kids and students the ability to experiment a lot easier. Remember, Facebook in its early days was hosted from a dorm room at college. Google from a garage.
- stevenwliao 11y ago
  As stated, the Google Fiber restrictions seem more like a QoS and bandwidth concern rather than a content concern.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    Their ban on the hosting of servers – despite a common concept in the US, as it seems from sibling comments – is a content concern. They directly say if you wish to do say, you should pay extra for this extra feature. It’s exactly the "Pay 5$ extra for Netflix on Verizon" concept we all complain about, but which everyone somehow accepts here.