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I am uncertain as to why you hold the actions of private individuals in such contempt, but give the government a free pass when it is just as prone to abuse, la

I am uncertain as to why you hold the actions of private individuals in such contempt, but give the government a free pass when it is just as prone to abuse, lack of accountability and poor service. Why is one a devil and the other an angel?

gnopgnip 11y ago
In general there is a formal process that use to remedy the situation with the government that is not available with a private company. Consider getting a parking ticket. At a private lot you are ticketed in error. You call the number listed but they refuse to accept they made an error even if you have proof you paid for parking. Or if you get a parking ticket from the city you can protest the citation by mail, then if it is not overturned you can request an appeal.
- vezzy-fnord 11y ago
  You can make use of the court system for resolving torts and contract violations in both cases, whether these courts are hypothetically publicly or privately operated. Actually in the case of a public service, you may become entangled in certain complications related to sovereign immunity, depending on jurisdiction. (There's also the surprising efficacy of vocally complaining in public. Do not underestimate a private firm's willingness to recuperate damages on its brand image.)
  - maus42 11y ago
    How likely it is that a refugee can effectively argue their complaints in a court? edit. addendum. These kind of firms have not that much of reason to care about their brand image when it comes to what regular people think about them: their only customers are some government officials (or in car park example, people who own the park space), not the general public.
    - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
      Refugees by definition have little leverage in general. I think it's a reasonable rule of thumb that any antipathy toward them will be greater expressed by the state that administrates the territory to begin with (and has various political interests to appear tough on something) than by private individuals, who are far more heterogeneous.

gnopgnip 11y ago

In general there is a formal process that use to remedy the situation with the government that is not available with a private company. Consider getting a parking ticket. At a private lot you are ticketed in error. You call the number listed but they refuse to accept they made an error even if you have proof you paid for parking. Or if you get a parking ticket from the city you can protest the citation by mail, then if it is not overturned you can request an appeal.

vezzy-fnord 11y ago
You can make use of the court system for resolving torts and contract violations in both cases, whether these courts are hypothetically publicly or privately operated. Actually in the case of a public service, you may become entangled in certain complications related to sovereign immunity, depending on jurisdiction. (There's also the surprising efficacy of vocally complaining in public. Do not underestimate a private firm's willingness to recuperate damages on its brand image.)
- maus42 11y ago
  How likely it is that a refugee can effectively argue their complaints in a court? edit. addendum. These kind of firms have not that much of reason to care about their brand image when it comes to what regular people think about them: their only customers are some government officials (or in car park example, people who own the park space), not the general public.
  - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
    Refugees by definition have little leverage in general. I think it's a reasonable rule of thumb that any antipathy toward them will be greater expressed by the state that administrates the territory to begin with (and has various political interests to appear tough on something) than by private individuals, who are far more heterogeneous.