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Many of them didn't flee ISIS. They fled Assad. Attitude towards ISIS borders between "don't care" to "they're alright" Some may hate ISIS, but they like part

by seivan 11y ago

Many of them didn't flee ISIS. They fled Assad. Attitude towards ISIS borders between "don't care" to "they're alright" Some may hate ISIS, but they like parts of ISIS. Like treatment of infidels, women and LGBT. http://english.dohainstitute.org/file/Get/40ebdf12-8960-4d18-8088-7c8a077e522e http://english.dohainstitute.org/file/Get/40ebdf12-8960-4d18... Getting radical muslims out of muslim cities has not proved to make them less radical. My parents wish more "quality control" was imposed. My parents were refugees.

gotchange 11y ago
Where are your parents from? Iran?
- dang 11y ago
  That reads like you intended it as both a personal and national slur, which would be a bannable offence on HN. Please don't comment like this here.
  - gotchange 11y ago
    You have very low opinion of me to think that I was trying to insult him by just inquiring about his parents national origin. His family name just caught my attention "Heidari" and I thought it was the Persian "حيدرى", that's all. I thought people here give other people the benefit of doubt and not judge them based on mere speculation.
    - dang 11y ago
      I completely misread you. I'm sorry. Thank you for the correction, and for repeating a core principle of HN that I also need to be reminded of. Moderating comments like that is probabilistic, since they don't come tagged with intent. In your case I guessed wrong because the form of the comment was similar to nasty ones (edit: I mean by other users) in the past. Your intent would have been clearer, and the comment more informative, if you had included the detail about the names in the original bit.
      - seivan 11y ago
        He shouldn't have to declare intent for a question as harmless as that. Would you behave the same way if he asked German or Norwegian? This is the verbal version of seeing police permanently gear up with military grade weapons after a terrorist attack. Surely you understand the irony of it?
      - gotchange 11y ago
        No prob :) I know that moderating a large community like HN can be very time consuming and frustrating at times esp. when mods aim to ensure a high quality level of interaction here and I applaud and appreciate all the mods' efforts to achieve that and if I could offer a suggestion to improve the quality even further, I'd invite everyone when reading comments and replies to give the authors the benefit of doubt and become more tolerant of polite dissenting view. Thanks for all :)
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      - gotchange 11y ago
        I'm confused, does this mean no?

by seivan 11y ago

gotchange 11y ago

Where are your parents from? Iran?

dang 11y ago
That reads like you intended it as both a personal and national slur, which would be a bannable offence on HN. Please don't comment like this here.
- gotchange 11y ago
  You have very low opinion of me to think that I was trying to insult him by just inquiring about his parents national origin. His family name just caught my attention "Heidari" and I thought it was the Persian "حيدرى", that's all. I thought people here give other people the benefit of doubt and not judge them based on mere speculation.
  - dang 11y ago
    I completely misread you. I'm sorry. Thank you for the correction, and for repeating a core principle of HN that I also need to be reminded of. Moderating comments like that is probabilistic, since they don't come tagged with intent. In your case I guessed wrong because the form of the comment was similar to nasty ones (edit: I mean by other users) in the past. Your intent would have been clearer, and the comment more informative, if you had included the detail about the names in the original bit.
    - seivan 11y ago
      He shouldn't have to declare intent for a question as harmless as that. Would you behave the same way if he asked German or Norwegian? This is the verbal version of seeing police permanently gear up with military grade weapons after a terrorist attack. Surely you understand the irony of it?
    - gotchange 11y ago
      No prob :) I know that moderating a large community like HN can be very time consuming and frustrating at times esp. when mods aim to ensure a high quality level of interaction here and I applaud and appreciate all the mods' efforts to achieve that and if I could offer a suggestion to improve the quality even further, I'd invite everyone when reading comments and replies to give the authors the benefit of doubt and become more tolerant of polite dissenting view. Thanks for all :)
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    - gotchange 11y ago
      I'm confused, does this mean no?