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Lisp + MySQL

by ias 20y ago

Lisp + MySQL

chris_l 20y ago
me, straight Common Lisp (SBCL)
- cridal 20y ago
  Do you guys use a web framework, like kpax, or straight CL?
  - gibsonf1 20y ago
    We use Allegro Serve's webactions, though we've customized (bypassed) it to the point where we now only use their session feature.
    - papersmith 20y ago
      Did you guys buy the Allegro suite or are you using portable allegroserve?
      - gibsonf1 20y ago
        We actually bought Lispworks (half the price of Allegro), and are using portable allegroserve. My partner (who is a software architect by trade) learned lisp for our current start-up and is using slime on Emacs for his interface so we can switch to Allegro if we want later on, which we are considering for their native high-speed mysql interface assuming it performs as advertised - we're using ClSQL right now to talk to MySQL.) He is extremely happy about lisp, especially after hacking java for years. (The code-base I had built up over the last few years as well as PG's writings helped convince him to give it a try even though he was very skeptical about lisp at first, There is no going back now :) Ironically, we decided on a different (more focused) idea to pursue for the current startup for which my architectural firm is the current first customer (my hair was on fire for this app), so the initial code base is waiting for a later date. (It will be used to extend the feature set of the current app by adding a conceptual interface) My partner is concerned about Aserve's ability to handle massive numbers of sessions at the same time, so we are considering going to a java websever and using the lisp side to generate all the html. (The html macro in Aserve is proving very fast and reliable) We're definitely looking for the best solution out there right now as we are planning to go live in about 2 months.
        papersmith 20y ago
        I'm fairly new to Lisp, this is encouraging to hear! :) Just a few technical questions: Is there any specific reason to use Lispworks as oppose to a free implementation (say SBCL)? I remember the author of portable allegroserve mentioned that he wrote it mostly for demonstration purposes, and might not perform well. Are you guys finding this to be an issue at this stage? As for session, would it be possible to store session objects in AllegroCache, which comes with the paid version of AllegroCL? (I'm just a newbie speculating :) )
  - gibsonf1 20y ago
    I hadn't heard of kpax before. Their documentation is missing on their website. Do you know the features and positive reasons to use it?
  - ias 20y ago
    No particular framework. Though a framework is starting to abstract away as the site gets bigger.
  - chris_l 20y ago
    I use Hunchentoot as server, but nothing on top of that
theoutlander 20y ago
LISP is cool!! I did it 10 years ago.... but keep confusing it with ML and Prolog.... :-|
papersmith 20y ago
I would love to see more Lisp web apps in startups. It's been quite discouraging after reddit abandoned Lisp.

Lisp + MySQL

by ias 20y ago

Lisp + MySQL

chris_l 20y ago

me, straight Common Lisp (SBCL)

cridal 20y ago
Do you guys use a web framework, like kpax, or straight CL?
- gibsonf1 20y ago
  We use Allegro Serve's webactions, though we've customized (bypassed) it to the point where we now only use their session feature.
  - papersmith 20y ago
    Did you guys buy the Allegro suite or are you using portable allegroserve?
    - gibsonf1 20y ago
      We actually bought Lispworks (half the price of Allegro), and are using portable allegroserve. My partner (who is a software architect by trade) learned lisp for our current start-up and is using slime on Emacs for his interface so we can switch to Allegro if we want later on, which we are considering for their native high-speed mysql interface assuming it performs as advertised - we're using ClSQL right now to talk to MySQL.) He is extremely happy about lisp, especially after hacking java for years. (The code-base I had built up over the last few years as well as PG's writings helped convince him to give it a try even though he was very skeptical about lisp at first, There is no going back now :) Ironically, we decided on a different (more focused) idea to pursue for the current startup for which my architectural firm is the current first customer (my hair was on fire for this app), so the initial code base is waiting for a later date. (It will be used to extend the feature set of the current app by adding a conceptual interface) My partner is concerned about Aserve's ability to handle massive numbers of sessions at the same time, so we are considering going to a java websever and using the lisp side to generate all the html. (The html macro in Aserve is proving very fast and reliable) We're definitely looking for the best solution out there right now as we are planning to go live in about 2 months.
      - papersmith 20y ago
        I'm fairly new to Lisp, this is encouraging to hear! :) Just a few technical questions: Is there any specific reason to use Lispworks as oppose to a free implementation (say SBCL)? I remember the author of portable allegroserve mentioned that he wrote it mostly for demonstration purposes, and might not perform well. Are you guys finding this to be an issue at this stage? As for session, would it be possible to store session objects in AllegroCache, which comes with the paid version of AllegroCL? (I'm just a newbie speculating :) )
- gibsonf1 20y ago
  I hadn't heard of kpax before. Their documentation is missing on their website. Do you know the features and positive reasons to use it?
- ias 20y ago
  No particular framework. Though a framework is starting to abstract away as the site gets bigger.
- chris_l 20y ago
  I use Hunchentoot as server, but nothing on top of that

theoutlander 20y ago

LISP is cool!! I did it 10 years ago.... but keep confusing it with ML and Prolog.... :-|

papersmith 20y ago

I would love to see more Lisp web apps in startups. It's been quite discouraging after reddit abandoned Lisp.