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I find it hard to believe that the author of this post didn't know better than to refer to Andreas as a "pundit". I have my many disagreements with him personal

I find it hard to believe that the author of this post didn't know better than to refer to Andreas as a "pundit". I have my many disagreements with him personally but it's ridiculous to treat him as a tech media talking head when his opinions on the subject are clearly based on multiple years shipping an Android-derived operating system on phones. Not to mention Firefox for Android, which I think he had some involvement with as well. The post as a whole seems to be intended to frame disagreement with Mr. Kuhn's PoV as coming from uninformed rabble and media talking heads. The post itself is well-written and thoughtfully argued, so it's disappointing that it's undermined by the author's choice of tone. If anyone is qualified to share their detailed thoughts on the OpenJDK/Android move, former/current officers of Mozilla are high on that list.

izacus 11y ago
Unfortunately Andreas' post was very misinformed and full of statements that simply weren't true (like the quip about Swing for example) which kinda supports the scepticism. I'm not sure if Andreas really knew what he was writing about in detail.
rockdoe 11y ago
Gal's post is full of mistakes, so he deserves all the criticism.
incepted 11y ago
Andreas' post is filled with incorrect statements, such as: > Swing will now sit on every Android phone, using up resources. It's pretty worrying that the former Mozilla CTO seems to be so uninformed about a topic or -- worse -- decided to write an article on a topic without even spending a few minutes researching it and understanding the implications. It doesn't reflect well on Mozilla either that they hired someone who seems to be so out of his depth on core matters to Mozilla's business.
- throwaway160106 11y ago
  Well, that is the same company that put Gary "JavaScript rendering engine" Kovacs at the helm as CEO.
- pcwalton 11y ago
  > It doesn't reflect well on Mozilla either that they hired someone who seems to be so out of his depth on core matters to Mozilla's business. Andreas wasn't hired as an executive, and you could have easily confirmed this [1] before posting this comment. He started as a developer in 2008 on the JS engine. As he was basically responsible for TraceMonkey, Andreas is a large part of the reason why SpiderMonkey is one of if not the fastest JS engines around. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Gal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Gal
  - incepted 11y ago
    How he got there and what he did before is irrelevant. The point is that he was Mozilla's CTO and his article is filled with inaccuracies showing he doesn't really understand what he's writing about and, worse, that he didn't even bother researching any of it.
  - bitmapbrother 11y ago
    This topic is about a former Mozilla CTO (who allegedly worked with Android) and his inaccurate and baseless statements about the implications of Google's switch to the OpenJDK. I could accept this level of technical ignorance from a blogger or a journalist (although, a proper journalist would have researched it thoroughly), but to hear these comments coming from a CTO is baffling due to how out of touch his understanding of the situation was. I hate to use the word ignorant, but in this case he was pretty much ignorant on the entire topic which is sort of a head scratcher for someone who was once a CTO.

izacus 11y ago

Unfortunately Andreas' post was very misinformed and full of statements that simply weren't true (like the quip about Swing for example) which kinda supports the scepticism. I'm not sure if Andreas really knew what he was writing about in detail.

rockdoe 11y ago

Gal's post is full of mistakes, so he deserves all the criticism.

incepted 11y ago

Andreas' post is filled with incorrect statements, such as: > Swing will now sit on every Android phone, using up resources. It's pretty worrying that the former Mozilla CTO seems to be so uninformed about a topic or -- worse -- decided to write an article on a topic without even spending a few minutes researching it and understanding the implications. It doesn't reflect well on Mozilla either that they hired someone who seems to be so out of his depth on core matters to Mozilla's business.

throwaway160106 11y ago
Well, that is the same company that put Gary "JavaScript rendering engine" Kovacs at the helm as CEO.
pcwalton 11y ago
> It doesn't reflect well on Mozilla either that they hired someone who seems to be so out of his depth on core matters to Mozilla's business. Andreas wasn't hired as an executive, and you could have easily confirmed this [1] before posting this comment. He started as a developer in 2008 on the JS engine. As he was basically responsible for TraceMonkey, Andreas is a large part of the reason why SpiderMonkey is one of if not the fastest JS engines around. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Gal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Gal
- incepted 11y ago
  How he got there and what he did before is irrelevant. The point is that he was Mozilla's CTO and his article is filled with inaccuracies showing he doesn't really understand what he's writing about and, worse, that he didn't even bother researching any of it.
- bitmapbrother 11y ago
  This topic is about a former Mozilla CTO (who allegedly worked with Android) and his inaccurate and baseless statements about the implications of Google's switch to the OpenJDK. I could accept this level of technical ignorance from a blogger or a journalist (although, a proper journalist would have researched it thoroughly), but to hear these comments coming from a CTO is baffling due to how out of touch his understanding of the situation was. I hate to use the word ignorant, but in this case he was pretty much ignorant on the entire topic which is sort of a head scratcher for someone who was once a CTO.