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'Although the Dutch position is nuanced and firm, the government also has the luxury of not having real impact on the real world' noted.

synctext 11y ago
They actually put money in development of strong encryption, €0.5M. Here are the details from the government ordering to support OpenSSL: https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/kst-34300-XIII-10 https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/kst-34300-XIII-10
- oever 11y ago
  And contrary to the document on the parliament website [1], that link points to the document in PDF, ODT, HTML and XML. [1] http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/brieven_regering/detail?id=2016Z00009&did=2016D00015 http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/brieven_regering/deta...
Arnt 11y ago
Some people desire simplicity, and will think it into existence if necessary. I expect the author of those words didn't, for example, think about the Netherlands being a net contributor to the EU, he just knew it's a small country. In the EU, net contributors seem to have something awfully close to an effective veto regarding minor issues, so this is good news.
- wobbleblob 11y ago
  > In the EU, net contributors seem to have something awfully close to an effective veto regarding minor issues, Do you have a source for this? I never got this impression. Some countries have proportionally large influence due to their size, namely France and Germany. Some others due to the high quality diplomats and politicians they send to Europe, such as Belgium and Italy. Some countries actively sabotage their own influence in the EU, by showing nothing but hostility and obstruction (UK), or by using the EU as a kind of retirement plan for politicians and diplomats that failed domestically (Netherlands). Always echoing the German point of view should not be seen as "an effective veto", it is essentially an attempt to stay in favor with their formerly close, powerful friend to the east, who has been getting less and less interested over the years, as his attention shifts towards the East.
  - Arnt 11y ago
    I read SZ (sz.de), which has separate articles about major issues and the occasional summary of minor things, e.g. when parliament is dissolved. "Other topics this year included: ..." Those other topics, the ones that don't merit separate articles, are the ones I have in mind.

synctext 11y ago

They actually put money in development of strong encryption, €0.5M. Here are the details from the government ordering to support OpenSSL: https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/kst-34300-XIII-10 https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/kst-34300-XIII-10

oever 11y ago
And contrary to the document on the parliament website [1], that link points to the document in PDF, ODT, HTML and XML. [1] http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/brieven_regering/detail?id=2016Z00009&did=2016D00015 http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/brieven_regering/deta...

Arnt 11y ago

Some people desire simplicity, and will think it into existence if necessary. I expect the author of those words didn't, for example, think about the Netherlands being a net contributor to the EU, he just knew it's a small country. In the EU, net contributors seem to have something awfully close to an effective veto regarding minor issues, so this is good news.

wobbleblob 11y ago
> In the EU, net contributors seem to have something awfully close to an effective veto regarding minor issues, Do you have a source for this? I never got this impression. Some countries have proportionally large influence due to their size, namely France and Germany. Some others due to the high quality diplomats and politicians they send to Europe, such as Belgium and Italy. Some countries actively sabotage their own influence in the EU, by showing nothing but hostility and obstruction (UK), or by using the EU as a kind of retirement plan for politicians and diplomats that failed domestically (Netherlands). Always echoing the German point of view should not be seen as "an effective veto", it is essentially an attempt to stay in favor with their formerly close, powerful friend to the east, who has been getting less and less interested over the years, as his attention shifts towards the East.
- Arnt 11y ago
  I read SZ (sz.de), which has separate articles about major issues and the occasional summary of minor things, e.g. when parliament is dissolved. "Other topics this year included: ..." Those other topics, the ones that don't merit separate articles, are the ones I have in mind.