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This isn't a drug you just jump right into. If you're interested in nootropics, it's smarter to test the waters with simple stuff like choline (preferably in th

This isn't a drug you just jump right into. If you're interested in nootropics, it's smarter to test the waters with simple stuff like choline (preferably in the form of citicoline of alpha GPC) and ALCAR (acetyl L-Carnitine), then slowly considering a racetam like piracetam or noopept. You need to know how you respond to the easy stuff first. This guy jumped right into the deep end without looking.

jodrellblank 11y ago
You need to know how you respond to the easy stuff first. This guy jumped right into the deep end without looking. He spoke to a previous user, consulted a doctor, and took it as part of a test by an Oxbridge Professor of Clinical Neuropsychology with "an international reputation in the fields of cognitive psychopharmacology, neuroethics" [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Sahakian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Sahakian ]. That is some level of 'looking'.
- thinkdevcode 11y ago
  Imagine you don't swim, yet you consult with an active swimmer, a professional swimmer, and a scientist who studies swimming and they all say you can swim. Do you jump in the deep end? I wouldn't. And what OP said is absolutely true when it comes to nootropics. Moda should not be taken lightly. Start with the basics and work your way up.
  - jodrellblank 11y ago
    You jump in the deep end and get cramps, you drown. You jump in the "deep" end with modafinil and you get a headache, a sleepless night, and people call you ugly? Why is that "not to be taken lightly"? People do a lot worse than that casually. I was heading into the article expecting him to end up with a stay in a psychiatric unit, with long term memory loss or personality disorders, with organ failure or loss of consciousness. 'Drug nightmares' can go really badly. And if the good effect was moving him a few percent in focus, do "the basics" ... do anything measurable at all?
- Malician 11y ago
  He checked off a list of prequisites, but did little to nothing to actually prepare himself. It's like he didn't even read the side-effect list or enough accounts from other users to have an idea what to expect. He comes up with the idea of dud pills (that stuff really sounds like modafinil, and the sulfur smell test is a dead giveaway,) and the doctor pontificates on liver enzymes - when anyone with a passing familiarity with the substance would suggest starting with a much lesser dose and structuring appetite, hydration, and sleep so as not to have a terrible time.

jodrellblank 11y ago

You need to know how you respond to the easy stuff first. This guy jumped right into the deep end without looking. He spoke to a previous user, consulted a doctor, and took it as part of a test by an Oxbridge Professor of Clinical Neuropsychology with "an international reputation in the fields of cognitive psychopharmacology, neuroethics" [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Sahakian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Sahakian ]. That is some level of 'looking'.

thinkdevcode 11y ago
Imagine you don't swim, yet you consult with an active swimmer, a professional swimmer, and a scientist who studies swimming and they all say you can swim. Do you jump in the deep end? I wouldn't. And what OP said is absolutely true when it comes to nootropics. Moda should not be taken lightly. Start with the basics and work your way up.
- jodrellblank 11y ago
  You jump in the deep end and get cramps, you drown. You jump in the "deep" end with modafinil and you get a headache, a sleepless night, and people call you ugly? Why is that "not to be taken lightly"? People do a lot worse than that casually. I was heading into the article expecting him to end up with a stay in a psychiatric unit, with long term memory loss or personality disorders, with organ failure or loss of consciousness. 'Drug nightmares' can go really badly. And if the good effect was moving him a few percent in focus, do "the basics" ... do anything measurable at all?
Malician 11y ago
He checked off a list of prequisites, but did little to nothing to actually prepare himself. It's like he didn't even read the side-effect list or enough accounts from other users to have an idea what to expect. He comes up with the idea of dud pills (that stuff really sounds like modafinil, and the sulfur smell test is a dead giveaway,) and the doctor pontificates on liver enzymes - when anyone with a passing familiarity with the substance would suggest starting with a much lesser dose and structuring appetite, hydration, and sleep so as not to have a terrible time.