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Better in being much more concise, but unfortunately, and for the same reason, even more revealing of the central emptiness of the argument. I don't know why w
by rdiddly 11y ago
Better in being much more concise, but unfortunately, and for the same reason, even more revealing of the central emptiness of the argument.
I don't know why we're even talking about such overbroad themes, even in the longer version. Whether you believe you can "create wealth" or not, poverty is quite simply a central facet of inequality; it is part of the DEFINITION of inequality. Poverty IS inequality, along with riches. All it means, is there's an income or wealth distribution curve whose slope is nonzero.
There is no conceptual definition of inequality that doesn't include poverty. If everyone had the same wealth, that, by definition, is a situation of
1) no inequality
2) no poverty
Whereas as soon as some people have more, and others have less (which is quaintly known as a little thing we call "inequality") there is a phenomenon crying out to be described, and that phenomenon is: A poorer group exists. There is poverty. Even if the poorer group is only just slightly poorer. Which interestingly indicates that poverty is inherently comparative. Equality is absolute; inequality is always relative. Just like in math.
You probably think you happen to have a lot, and people in the Third World happen to not have a lot. No. You have a lot, BECAUSE the people in the Third World don't have a lot. And they have less BECAUSE you have more. The corporations working on your behalf extracted that wealth from them, and conveyed it to you. (And to themselves of course.) And when those people try to immigrate to your country they are just trying to follow their own money to your doorstep.
Anyway the thing everybody hates and wants to fight is not that "some people make money" but that "the Paul Graham class" can buy themselves a Congressman. They can emit ridiculous brain-farts over and over (Musk) and the media fawningly fellates. They can invest in a thing and slavish people infer directly from that, "Wow, must be real valuable!" Inequality confers unfair political advantage which leads to disproportionate opportunity which leads to further inequality in the same direction. It is not a self-stabilizing system inherently. It is prone to excesses and failure, and a shity quality of life for the majority on its way to getting there. Go ahead and push that as far as you can, see what happens.
- lostsock 11y agoThere will always be a "poor" if there is a "rich" but I have always thought poverty was about being impoverished, and was a separate issue. My understanding was that poverty was about lacking food, shelter and security, and I can easily imagine a society in which everyone has those things while there are still richer and poorer people