I work at a defense contractor; I can confirm this. 9-5 and no overtime. Sure, I have to keep timesheets, but whatever. Actually, my salary is on par with the

I work at a defense contractor; I can confirm this. 9-5 and no overtime. Sure, I have to keep timesheets, but whatever. Actually, my salary is on par with the standard salaries for my area. No, it's not SV level, but salaries in Dallas are much lower than SV across the board. Cost of living is so much cheaper, though, that I'd rather work at a defense contractor in Dallas than at a unicorn in SV. I can handily afford a 1500 sq. ft. townhouse on $65k/year, here... (I could afford it on less actually... I was making $42k when I first moved in). I don't think anybody in California can say that.