I agree, once you step outside the bounds of "text only" you bring on a whole mess of complexity. I've always disliked programming in Eclipse or VS, it just fee

I agree, once you step outside the bounds of "text only" you bring on a whole mess of complexity. I've always disliked programming in Eclipse or VS, it just feels wrong compared to a nice simple .py file or whatever you're working with that can be used with any editor you want. It seems like language complexity brought on IDEs, rather than anything else. They tried to fix the verbosity of C++ and in turn, Java, by creating new IDEs rather than a newer higher level language.