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L(earn) Your Dream Job. Offer Guaranteed

5 points by erikarrabal 11y ago

acconrad 11y ago
This is severely misleading. You're not guaranteed an offer - in fact it's the opposite. If you get an offer, you get your tuition back. So precisely those that are struggling to get an offer (and need education), they don't get any money back. This is a rich-get-richer sort of deal, which is unfortunate.
- erikarrabal 11y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. Our goal is to be extremely transparent, make education accessible and affordable, and help close the unemployment gap (especially for recent graduates and young professionals who are struggling with securing steady career-type jobs the most). So the fact that our value proposition got lost in translation means we definitely need to tighten our copy before moving forward. The tuition kick-back is an extra incentive to motivate hungry job seekers to not only learn professional skills that are in demand and address industry gaps, but actively search for quality job offers that relate to their passions and interests on our platform as well. A common problem nowadays (and something I've experienced in the past myself) is active procrastination. Where you keep learning and learning, but never getting your hands dirty and doing anything. Our goal is to become as outcome-driven as possible. Does that clear things up? Also, do you have any other suggestions? I'd love to send you an updated link once we tighten and clear things up.
  - acconrad 11y ago
    Hey Erik, I hear you! It is clear from your website what your incentives and message are, but it was lost in the title for this post. I think you're making a lot of heavy-handed assertions: > help close the unemployment gap is extremely different goal from > motivate hungry job seekers to not only learn professional skills that are in demand and address industry gaps, but actively search for quality job offers that relate to their passions and interests Can I ask - have you ever been unemployed? As in, for more than a day? And against your will? If you have, than you can empathize with how utterly terrifying it is to be jobless - especially if you have a mortgage and kids to take care of. Which contradicts: > A common problem nowadays (and something I've experienced in the past myself) is active procrastination. Where you keep learning and learning, but never getting your hands dirty and doing anything. Who is actively procrastinating while recently unemployed or underemployed? I can't see that being a realistic scenario. Now throw them into a society which has completely uplifted an entire industry (industrial manufacturing) that they were trained for, and expect them to learn professional skills that are in demand. How do you expect a GE factory worker of 25 years to just magically gain the confidence to tackle machine learning? Your endeavor is noble. Your incentives are flawed. People are indeed clamoring for jobs. People are further attracted to hot fields like tech for their lucrative salaries, and they are understaffed in places like the United States. But come on - if I spent $500 or even $5000 and got a job, I'm not only getting my $500/$5000 back, but I'm getting a $80k job too, while the failing factory worker throws down $500 and no job, is now purely $500 in the hole. I just don't see that as an ethical incentive, and I would strongly consider talking to your customers to understand and empathize with the situations they are in and how they arrived where they were, and what they need to do to get to the next step, particularly if you believe your customers are those who are trying to get themselves out of unemployment.
    - erikarrabal 11y ago
      I completely empathize (first-hand experience myself), hence the reason I'm personally tackling these massive problems head-on. Thanks for the new perspective, it always helps to get out of your own head and view things from a fresh set of lenses. I'm actually working through problem/solution fit as we speak and after looking over my notes from roughly 200 customer development interviews and surveys (mostly with college students and recent graduates), I've uncovered some trends that mirror your points. When you're actively job hunting, more often than not money is tight. And by no means will I allow money to be a barrier to entry for motivated job seekers. So get your popcorn ready, because I will pull this off.
irongeek 11y ago
Perhaps I am missing it, but I am not seeing any list of exactly what courses are being offered.
- erikarrabal 11y ago
  We haven't publically released our course catalogue to the masses quite yet. That said, are there any skills you (or your employer) would like to learn? We're still putting the final touches on everything.

5 points by erikarrabal 11y ago

This is severely misleading. You're not guaranteed an offer - in fact it's the opposite. If you get an offer, you get your tuition back. So precisely those that are struggling to get an offer (and need education), they don't get any money back. This is a rich-get-richer sort of deal, which is unfortunate.

erikarrabal 11y ago
Thanks for the feedback. Our goal is to be extremely transparent, make education accessible and affordable, and help close the unemployment gap (especially for recent graduates and young professionals who are struggling with securing steady career-type jobs the most). So the fact that our value proposition got lost in translation means we definitely need to tighten our copy before moving forward. The tuition kick-back is an extra incentive to motivate hungry job seekers to not only learn professional skills that are in demand and address industry gaps, but actively search for quality job offers that relate to their passions and interests on our platform as well. A common problem nowadays (and something I've experienced in the past myself) is active procrastination. Where you keep learning and learning, but never getting your hands dirty and doing anything. Our goal is to become as outcome-driven as possible. Does that clear things up? Also, do you have any other suggestions? I'd love to send you an updated link once we tighten and clear things up.
- acconrad 11y ago
  Hey Erik, I hear you! It is clear from your website what your incentives and message are, but it was lost in the title for this post. I think you're making a lot of heavy-handed assertions: > help close the unemployment gap is extremely different goal from > motivate hungry job seekers to not only learn professional skills that are in demand and address industry gaps, but actively search for quality job offers that relate to their passions and interests Can I ask - have you ever been unemployed? As in, for more than a day? And against your will? If you have, than you can empathize with how utterly terrifying it is to be jobless - especially if you have a mortgage and kids to take care of. Which contradicts: > A common problem nowadays (and something I've experienced in the past myself) is active procrastination. Where you keep learning and learning, but never getting your hands dirty and doing anything. Who is actively procrastinating while recently unemployed or underemployed? I can't see that being a realistic scenario. Now throw them into a society which has completely uplifted an entire industry (industrial manufacturing) that they were trained for, and expect them to learn professional skills that are in demand. How do you expect a GE factory worker of 25 years to just magically gain the confidence to tackle machine learning? Your endeavor is noble. Your incentives are flawed. People are indeed clamoring for jobs. People are further attracted to hot fields like tech for their lucrative salaries, and they are understaffed in places like the United States. But come on - if I spent $500 or even $5000 and got a job, I'm not only getting my $500/$5000 back, but I'm getting a $80k job too, while the failing factory worker throws down $500 and no job, is now purely $500 in the hole. I just don't see that as an ethical incentive, and I would strongly consider talking to your customers to understand and empathize with the situations they are in and how they arrived where they were, and what they need to do to get to the next step, particularly if you believe your customers are those who are trying to get themselves out of unemployment.
  - erikarrabal 11y ago
    I completely empathize (first-hand experience myself), hence the reason I'm personally tackling these massive problems head-on. Thanks for the new perspective, it always helps to get out of your own head and view things from a fresh set of lenses. I'm actually working through problem/solution fit as we speak and after looking over my notes from roughly 200 customer development interviews and surveys (mostly with college students and recent graduates), I've uncovered some trends that mirror your points. When you're actively job hunting, more often than not money is tight. And by no means will I allow money to be a barrier to entry for motivated job seekers. So get your popcorn ready, because I will pull this off.

irongeek 11y ago

Perhaps I am missing it, but I am not seeing any list of exactly what courses are being offered.

erikarrabal 11y ago
We haven't publically released our course catalogue to the masses quite yet. That said, are there any skills you (or your employer) would like to learn? We're still putting the final touches on everything.