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Can't much off the electronics be off-board? Given I could buy a Fire, Apple, Roku etc. I've always wondered whether there is a market for just a panel with a s

by jjp 11y ago

Can't much off the electronics be off-board? Given I could buy a Fire, Apple, Roku etc. I've always wondered whether there is a market for just a panel with a single HDMI input.

dogma1138 11y ago
Not sure if you can drive 4K and above with 3D with 1mm thick screen like LG showed. They've "cheated" on the demo's the screens were fed with through a flex connector and had only a few still images on them, even the LCD driver is something that would require a bigger package than what you can put on flex today, and those solid state components aren't flexible... >I've always wondered whether there is a market for just a panel with a single HDMI input. Checkout the Korean white label TV's and monitors Ebay they use LG and Samsung panels usually come with the most basic features (the vast majority of them don't have a tuner cheaper, and avoids hideous import taxes for most the world) but then again you get a 65" 4K TV for less than 2000$.... e.g. http://stores.ebay.com/Dream-Seller/UHD-3840-x-2160-/_i.html?_fsub=6878506015&_sid=1067141085&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 http://stores.ebay.com/Dream-Seller/UHD-3840-x-2160-/_i.html...
- jacquesm 11y ago
  > They've "cheated" on the demo's the screens were fed with through a flex connector and had only a few still images on them How is that cheating? Display technology goes through a bunch of stages before being ready for mass consumption and the first stage after getting 'off the drawing board' would be to feed it data and to see what it looks like with stills. Still images are much harder to get right than motion in display technology because you have just about forever to determine what it looks like. With moving images the eye is much more forgiving. Display calibration is always done with stills.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Hence the quotation marks "cheated" isn't in a bad way, just pointing that the driving part of the display isn't on a nice thin flex package, and we've yet to seen these displays produce high refresh rate images there's a reason why prototypes always show stills things go funky once you have to start turning 8 million odd pixels on and off....
    - jacquesm 11y ago
      What about that pony? Really, this is a huge step for display tech and it seems a bit much to demand systems integration at that same level right away as well. This is not a product, it's a technology demo.
      - xerography 11y ago
        Which pony?
      - dogma1138 11y ago
        Which is exactly what I'm saying, were quite a few years away from this being really commercial judging by the current track record of display tech probably about 10 years until its some what widely available in fully integrated systems.
ksec 11y ago
Exactly what i have in mind for a long time. The TV, should just be a Panel with one connection. The electronics will live in another box.

by jjp 11y ago

Can't much off the electronics be off-board? Given I could buy a Fire, Apple, Roku etc. I've always wondered whether there is a market for just a panel with a single HDMI input.

dogma1138 11y ago

Not sure if you can drive 4K and above with 3D with 1mm thick screen like LG showed. They've "cheated" on the demo's the screens were fed with through a flex connector and had only a few still images on them, even the LCD driver is something that would require a bigger package than what you can put on flex today, and those solid state components aren't flexible... >I've always wondered whether there is a market for just a panel with a single HDMI input. Checkout the Korean white label TV's and monitors Ebay they use LG and Samsung panels usually come with the most basic features (the vast majority of them don't have a tuner cheaper, and avoids hideous import taxes for most the world) but then again you get a 65" 4K TV for less than 2000$.... e.g. http://stores.ebay.com/Dream-Seller/UHD-3840-x-2160-/_i.html?_fsub=6878506015&_sid=1067141085&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 http://stores.ebay.com/Dream-Seller/UHD-3840-x-2160-/_i.html...

jacquesm 11y ago
> They've "cheated" on the demo's the screens were fed with through a flex connector and had only a few still images on them How is that cheating? Display technology goes through a bunch of stages before being ready for mass consumption and the first stage after getting 'off the drawing board' would be to feed it data and to see what it looks like with stills. Still images are much harder to get right than motion in display technology because you have just about forever to determine what it looks like. With moving images the eye is much more forgiving. Display calibration is always done with stills.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  Hence the quotation marks "cheated" isn't in a bad way, just pointing that the driving part of the display isn't on a nice thin flex package, and we've yet to seen these displays produce high refresh rate images there's a reason why prototypes always show stills things go funky once you have to start turning 8 million odd pixels on and off....
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    What about that pony? Really, this is a huge step for display tech and it seems a bit much to demand systems integration at that same level right away as well. This is not a product, it's a technology demo.
    - xerography 11y ago
      Which pony?
    - dogma1138 11y ago
      Which is exactly what I'm saying, were quite a few years away from this being really commercial judging by the current track record of display tech probably about 10 years until its some what widely available in fully integrated systems.

ksec 11y ago

Exactly what i have in mind for a long time. The TV, should just be a Panel with one connection. The electronics will live in another box.