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> In both cases the accuser turned out to be an unreliable witness. No. In both cases, the accuser turned out to be lying through her teeth. > It seems quite
by adekok 11y ago
> In both cases the accuser turned out to be an unreliable witness.
No. In both cases, the accuser turned out to be lying through her teeth.
> It seems quite possible that one or more rapes occurred in both cases, but I am not one of the very few people in the world who have reliable information about what actually happened. Neither, I suspect, are you.
Yes, I am. You should be, too. Because the information about what happened is publicly available.
For the Virginia case, it turns out that every aspect of the story was false. Her alleged boyfriend was fake. There was no party on the date she said. Her friends disagreed with her depiction of their behavior, etc.
The same applies to the Duke Lacrosse case. Please educate yourself.
> ... some harm should be blamed on SJWs.
The majority of the witch hunting can be blamed on SJWs. Again, public facts help here.
> However, the harm done is infinitesimally small compared to the harm done to rape victims by police officers, public officials, and others in similar distortions in the opposite direction.
Supposition without evidence. And that shows a complete callous indifference to the people falsely accused.
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." Catherine Comins
Or witness the false rate of rape convictions. Studies based on DNS evidence show it's about 15%. That's non negligible.
And are you really saying we live in a culture where police officers, public officials, etc. distort the numbers to lower the incidence of rape? Are you joking, or just deliberately blind?
See any SJW-style discussion on rape "one in five university women are raped". Are they delusional, or just lying? That incidence would be higher than war-torn Somalia, for crying out loud.
> Olivia Benson the fictional T.V. character?
Ophelia Benson. Auto-correct for the fail.
> This case does seem like a miscarriage of justice to me. However, again, there has been an outpouring of support for him.
I'm sure he's happy to know that. With his life destroyed. And his bills only partially paid for by the "outpouring of support".
> And the number of people who do harass women, like actually making death threats, etc, and never being punished... is huge.
Evidence.
If you look for studies, you'll see that men get harassed on line at least as much, if not more than women.
> This is my whole issue. There will inevitably be crazy violent people on both sides,
That's a crock. Please show me one anti-SJW organization that engages in violent protest of people who disagree with them.
It.
Just.
Doesn't.
Happen.
> The anti-SJW crowd seems to have no sense of proportion. A handful of cases that were, in the end, victories for them are evidence of a systematic problem, while constant miscarriage of justice in the other direction is completely ignored.
That's projection. Like most SJWs, you've got it completely backwards.
> Are there morally bankrupt SJWs? Of course.
My contention (backed up by facts) is that the entire SJW movement is based on censorship, shaming, violence, and lies. I cannot in all good conscience support a movement where the end justifies the means.
That way led to the French revolution. Stalinism. Maoism.
> Are any of these widespread social problems or fundamental flaws in social justice, baseball, or pre-school, respectively? I don't think so.
Only the SJWs claim to be the moral police for all of society. Only the SJWs claim to set the moral high ground for all of society. Only SJWs claim that "if you're not with us, you're against us".
There are morally bankrupt people everywhere. I find the whole SJW movement to be morally bankrupt and inhumane at it's core.
You should, too.