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Right now my entire blog's in a very stream-of-consciousness mode. I'm writing lots of long unedited things every day just to get it out in time for an upcoming

by rinich 17y ago

Right now my entire blog's in a very stream-of-consciousness mode. I'm writing lots of long unedited things every day just to get it out in time for an upcoming major revision. I submitted this because I was a bit irked at how commentary here is steadfastly ignoring what the iPad is and how it's going to be sold. I enjoy critics as long as they understand what they're criticizing. Aaronsw's post was enough to provoke me into submitting this. If anybody thinks this isn't appropriate tone for HN, feel free to flag it! I have no particular expectations for this submission.

angusgr 17y ago
Well, that's what I meant by "you're entirely right". I agree with you that these are points that are missing from a lot of the "geek" discussion about this, which seems to be the only discussion informing even the mainstream discussion about this so far. And the "mouth-foamy" tone (Apple "the most powerful company that’s ever existed."?) kind of helps to make your point, so I'd suggest that it works both for and against you in that way. :)
- rinich 17y ago
  Awesome! Anything that excuses my writing is fine in my book. From the perspective of an art student Apple's essentially cornered every market now. Whether you're a multimedia programmer, a musician, a filmmaker, a newspaper editor, or a novelist, now Apple controls you on this thing. Even something like HTML5 support means that suddenly I don't have to worry about web standards for this entire block of the market, thanks to Webkit. The good news is that it's in Apple's interest to appeal to artists and to smaller publishing groups. Between this and the Supreme Court's ruling this week, the University of the Arts is throwing lusty drunken celebrations. Every student here's just been told they're going to be employed and making a lot of money.
  - alex_c 17y ago
    Whether you're a multimedia programmer, a musician, a filmmaker, a newspaper editor, or a novelist... you're unlikely to find the iPad more useful than a MacBook in any way. Of course, I'm not an art student, so correct me if I'm wrong :)
    - rinich 17y ago
      Well... yes and no. Certainly there are certain things that artists need that the iPad won't be instantly equipped to handle. However, in terms of sales newspaper people and novelists will thrive with this, and I suspect this product will increase movie sales and rentals immensely. Meanwhile, I cannot emphasize how wonderful it is to have a product adhering to modern web standards. Makes me want to give up yelling at Firefox 3 and pursuing a career as iPad evangelist. There's another way the iPad appeals to vain, picky art types, and that's how fringeless it is. Even OS X bothers me in small, subtle ways that my iPod touch avoided with its utterly simplistic design. Taking that design and building a computer out of it means I might actually finally appreciate a piece of hardware. Simplicity means losing hardcore technique, but I enjoy the thought of being able to doodle digital images with my hands.
      - chrischen 17y ago
        I don't see how this would increase movie sales. Most people already have TVs, and TVs have much bigger screens than the iPad. So unless the iPad makes it much easier to deliver those HD movies on to your TV, I doubt it will do much. But even if it does do that, it'd be encroaching on the Apple TV's space.
        rinich 17y ago
        Most people don't buy movies on their computer. It's more logical to buy a DVD set, which plays on both TV and computers, than it is to buy a digital movie that can't be moved back easily. Computers don't offer much of a movie-watching advantage, so the computer-movie market is floundering. The iPhone lets me buy movies on the fly, which gives me a great convenience. But it's small. The iPad, on the other hand, lets me buy from anywhere, but it's large enough to make movies enjoyable. If I'm about to get on an 8-hour flight, maybe I buy a book and rent a movie. The fact that I can pay a small amount of money, get something to watch on the plane, and never have to worry with physical packaging, that's nice. Certainly that encroaches on Apple TV. But Apple TV is a bastard son anyway.
        17y ago
csmeder 17y ago
Your essay is great. It makes me feel less alone in this world. I didn't find it full of vehemence. ` It is okay to speak with force. At times force is needed to cut through layers of of mental resistance. New ideas that we don't understand scare us. We fear what we don't understand. The points you are trying to make are over the head of most people. 99.9999999% don't get "it". If they did we would have more companies that could compete with apple not just copy apple. ` What do I mean by copy Apple? One example is the iPhone. If Apple never made the iPhone. What would phones look like right now? We would have the the Razor3 and it would allow us to download ring tones, not apps. Heres some food for thought from Einstein: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." - Albert Einstein And the most important to this discussion: "The significant problems we face can not be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein The iPad is not a solution to the question of: whats a better computer or whats a better phone. Just as the iPhone wasn't a better Razor.
- rinich 17y ago
  I'm glad you like it! It's corny, but when people let me know they've enjoyed something of mine it makes it all worth the gritted teeth and the hurling laptops out windows.
  - asciitaxi 17y ago
    Really brilliant article
- pyre 17y ago
  > The iPad is not a solution to the question of: whats a better computer or whats a better phone. Just as the iPhone wasn't a better Razor. The iPad is a consumer device in the truest sense of the word. It's a device that was built to make it as easy as possible for the user to consume media whether it's the Web, movies, music, photos, etc. Plain and simple. Oh, and comparing the iPhone to the Razr is a bit of a strawman. There have been plenty of PDA-phones in the past: WindowsMobile phones, Palm PDA-phones, etc. They just never did provided a good enough interface to the user to really take off. So yes. The iPhone was an evolutionary leap instead of a revolutionary leap. > At times force is needed to cut through layers of of mental resistance. New ideas that we don't understand scare us. We fear what we don't understand. At the end of the day, the iPad is a consumer electronic device not a solution to world hunger. Please get some perspective. Writing a blog post praising the iPad when everyone else is disappointed with it is not some sort of 'shining moment' for journalism that will be recognized by generations to come as a turning point when the tide of Apple-haters was stemmed, ushering in the new Golden Era of Apple. > 99.9999999% don't get "it" I'd say that 98% of people don't even know that Apple had a keynote today. > If they did we would have more companies that could compete with apple not just copy apple. Most other companies are not in Apple's business. They are making hardware with some software thrown on to push the hardware, or they are selling some software for some hardware. Most companies don't have the attention to detail that Apple does. Yea, sometimes they screw things up (sometimes badly), but OS X doesn't have parts of OS7 hanging around in it the way that Windows Vista still had some little-used apps with icons from the Windows 3.1 days. Most other companies are just pushing their product out the door to turn a profit, but Apple prides itself on projecting an image of quality they way that a high-end car-maker does. I also really don't like it when people get all uppity about 'copying.' "Who copied who" is a tired game in the software/hardware industry. The real issue is when someone copies something and claims it as their own, not when someone copies something. People adopting the techniques and methods of others is how progress is made. If you want to play that game, then Apple copied the entire idea for the gui/mouse interface from Xerox. Apple also copied the functionality of Time Machine from countless other utilities that were mostly relegated to the realm of system admins (or 'power users' in the case of Linux/BSD + rsync/rdiff). You might say 'but they copied it better.' But if you want to start talking like that then you better suffix 'everyone copies Apple' with 'poorly' lest you imply that 'copying' at all is a bad thing (and there should be a stigma attached to it).

by rinich 17y ago

angusgr 17y ago

Well, that's what I meant by "you're entirely right". I agree with you that these are points that are missing from a lot of the "geek" discussion about this, which seems to be the only discussion informing even the mainstream discussion about this so far. And the "mouth-foamy" tone (Apple "the most powerful company that’s ever existed."?) kind of helps to make your point, so I'd suggest that it works both for and against you in that way. :)

rinich 17y ago
Awesome! Anything that excuses my writing is fine in my book. From the perspective of an art student Apple's essentially cornered every market now. Whether you're a multimedia programmer, a musician, a filmmaker, a newspaper editor, or a novelist, now Apple controls you on this thing. Even something like HTML5 support means that suddenly I don't have to worry about web standards for this entire block of the market, thanks to Webkit. The good news is that it's in Apple's interest to appeal to artists and to smaller publishing groups. Between this and the Supreme Court's ruling this week, the University of the Arts is throwing lusty drunken celebrations. Every student here's just been told they're going to be employed and making a lot of money.
- alex_c 17y ago
  Whether you're a multimedia programmer, a musician, a filmmaker, a newspaper editor, or a novelist... you're unlikely to find the iPad more useful than a MacBook in any way. Of course, I'm not an art student, so correct me if I'm wrong :)
  - rinich 17y ago
    Well... yes and no. Certainly there are certain things that artists need that the iPad won't be instantly equipped to handle. However, in terms of sales newspaper people and novelists will thrive with this, and I suspect this product will increase movie sales and rentals immensely. Meanwhile, I cannot emphasize how wonderful it is to have a product adhering to modern web standards. Makes me want to give up yelling at Firefox 3 and pursuing a career as iPad evangelist. There's another way the iPad appeals to vain, picky art types, and that's how fringeless it is. Even OS X bothers me in small, subtle ways that my iPod touch avoided with its utterly simplistic design. Taking that design and building a computer out of it means I might actually finally appreciate a piece of hardware. Simplicity means losing hardcore technique, but I enjoy the thought of being able to doodle digital images with my hands.
    - chrischen 17y ago
      I don't see how this would increase movie sales. Most people already have TVs, and TVs have much bigger screens than the iPad. So unless the iPad makes it much easier to deliver those HD movies on to your TV, I doubt it will do much. But even if it does do that, it'd be encroaching on the Apple TV's space.
      - rinich 17y ago
        Most people don't buy movies on their computer. It's more logical to buy a DVD set, which plays on both TV and computers, than it is to buy a digital movie that can't be moved back easily. Computers don't offer much of a movie-watching advantage, so the computer-movie market is floundering. The iPhone lets me buy movies on the fly, which gives me a great convenience. But it's small. The iPad, on the other hand, lets me buy from anywhere, but it's large enough to make movies enjoyable. If I'm about to get on an 8-hour flight, maybe I buy a book and rent a movie. The fact that I can pay a small amount of money, get something to watch on the plane, and never have to worry with physical packaging, that's nice. Certainly that encroaches on Apple TV. But Apple TV is a bastard son anyway.
        17y ago

csmeder 17y ago

Your essay is great. It makes me feel less alone in this world. I didn't find it full of vehemence. ` It is okay to speak with force. At times force is needed to cut through layers of of mental resistance. New ideas that we don't understand scare us. We fear what we don't understand. The points you are trying to make are over the head of most people. 99.9999999% don't get "it". If they did we would have more companies that could compete with apple not just copy apple. ` What do I mean by copy Apple? One example is the iPhone. If Apple never made the iPhone. What would phones look like right now? We would have the the Razor3 and it would allow us to download ring tones, not apps. Heres some food for thought from Einstein: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." - Albert Einstein And the most important to this discussion: "The significant problems we face can not be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." - Albert Einstein The iPad is not a solution to the question of: whats a better computer or whats a better phone. Just as the iPhone wasn't a better Razor.

rinich 17y ago
I'm glad you like it! It's corny, but when people let me know they've enjoyed something of mine it makes it all worth the gritted teeth and the hurling laptops out windows.
- asciitaxi 17y ago
  Really brilliant article
pyre 17y ago
> The iPad is not a solution to the question of: whats a better computer or whats a better phone. Just as the iPhone wasn't a better Razor. The iPad is a consumer device in the truest sense of the word. It's a device that was built to make it as easy as possible for the user to consume media whether it's the Web, movies, music, photos, etc. Plain and simple. Oh, and comparing the iPhone to the Razr is a bit of a strawman. There have been plenty of PDA-phones in the past: WindowsMobile phones, Palm PDA-phones, etc. They just never did provided a good enough interface to the user to really take off. So yes. The iPhone was an evolutionary leap instead of a revolutionary leap. > At times force is needed to cut through layers of of mental resistance. New ideas that we don't understand scare us. We fear what we don't understand. At the end of the day, the iPad is a consumer electronic device not a solution to world hunger. Please get some perspective. Writing a blog post praising the iPad when everyone else is disappointed with it is not some sort of 'shining moment' for journalism that will be recognized by generations to come as a turning point when the tide of Apple-haters was stemmed, ushering in the new Golden Era of Apple. > 99.9999999% don't get "it" I'd say that 98% of people don't even know that Apple had a keynote today. > If they did we would have more companies that could compete with apple not just copy apple. Most other companies are not in Apple's business. They are making hardware with some software thrown on to push the hardware, or they are selling some software for some hardware. Most companies don't have the attention to detail that Apple does. Yea, sometimes they screw things up (sometimes badly), but OS X doesn't have parts of OS7 hanging around in it the way that Windows Vista still had some little-used apps with icons from the Windows 3.1 days. Most other companies are just pushing their product out the door to turn a profit, but Apple prides itself on projecting an image of quality they way that a high-end car-maker does. I also really don't like it when people get all uppity about 'copying.' "Who copied who" is a tired game in the software/hardware industry. The real issue is when someone copies something and claims it as their own, not when someone copies something. People adopting the techniques and methods of others is how progress is made. If you want to play that game, then Apple copied the entire idea for the gui/mouse interface from Xerox. Apple also copied the functionality of Time Machine from countless other utilities that were mostly relegated to the realm of system admins (or 'power users' in the case of Linux/BSD + rsync/rdiff). You might say 'but they copied it better.' But if you want to start talking like that then you better suffix 'everyone copies Apple' with 'poorly' lest you imply that 'copying' at all is a bad thing (and there should be a stigma attached to it).