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I am a big fan of apple product and I don't wanna be rude to the author, mostly because I don't know much about him. But this post reminds me of a typical obnox

by pavs 17y ago

I am a big fan of apple product and I don't wanna be rude to the author, mostly because I don't know much about him. But this post reminds me of a typical obnoxious apple fanboy. "Its not only good, it awesome, super, duper good." Lets not get carried away now. We know almost nothing about the processor. We don't know how it will compare against a similar range intel processor. We don't know how much the ipad OS (which obviously isn't _exactly_ the same as iphone OS) was optimized for this processor. Most importantly we can only speculate about apple's _real_ reason for going into chip making business, it might not be because they have a better product - but in the long run it might be cheaper for them to make their own.

tjmc 17y ago
"Apple fanboy" is kind of the generic term. I think "fawning sycophant" and "groveling lick-spittle" describe Gruber better.
- simonw 17y ago
  http://daringfireball.net/2009/08/ninjawords http://daringfireball.net/2009/08/ninjawords
  - tjmc 17y ago
    Well chosen response. Guess I deserve the down mods of the grey t-shirt and commie star brigade!
FraaJad 17y ago
Gruber, the author is the alpha dog of mac fanboys. He sets the tone for the rest of the tribe. He is very good in what he does. What you see may be the remnants of the reality distortion field he was exposed to today ;)
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- dasil003 17y ago
  Does just the word "fan" even exist in tech circles anymore? According to my definition Gruber is by no means an Apple fanboy. Why? Because he is not scared to criticize Apple and most of his theses are objectively credible. Just because he likes Apple and often writes rebuttals to pundits who just don't get Apple (or more likely are trolling for hits) doesn't make him a fanboy. There's no doubt that the Apple fanboys all read him, but to call the man himself a fanboy is to drain the word of its whole connotation.
jodrellblank 17y ago
Article: ~"Apple is taking computing away from the focus on tech specs and focusing on the whole package. They've made their own CPU, they've put deep thought into the software, and it shows, this thing is fast". You: ~"Hold on, we don't know anything about the processor's specs. It can't feel fast to use for the end user until we can benchmark the CPU against an Intel CPU". Me: While knowing about the processor might be interesting, if Apple have combined software and hardware to make a fast to use device, what the numbers show the raw hardware is capable of is rather irrelevant - even if they were extra bad, that would just show the software was extra carefully tuned.
- pavs 17y ago
  Not sure you read the same article I read. Some exact quote: "But: everyone I spoke to in the press room was raving first and foremost about the speed. None of us could shut up about it. It feels impossibly fast. (And our next thought: What happens if Apple has figured out a way to make a CPU like A4 that fits in an iPhone? If they pull that off for this year’s new iPhone, look out.)" "Apple doesn’t just own and control a mobile CPU, they own and control the hands-down best mobile CPU in the world. Software aside (which is a huge thing to put aside), it may well be that no other company could make a device today matching the price, size, and performance of the iPad. They’re not getting into the CPU business for kicks, they’re getting into it to kick ass." Now that i reread the whole thing, the author sounds extremely delusional and I am tempted to question his tech knowledge and what he knows about the hardware besides being a raging apple fan boy.
  - phil 17y ago
    So do you contend that there are other companies that could build a device comparable to the iPad? Who are they? Why aren't we hearing about their competitive offerings?
    - jodrellblank 17y ago
      http://gizmodo.com/5440207/netbook-tablets-get-capacitive-multitouch-with-the-ideapad-s10+3t http://gizmodo.com/5440207/netbook-tablets-get-capacitive-mu... looks pretty interesting. You can argue the details about whether an atom chip is a good alternative, but as a whole it's certainly in the right size, weight, battery life, touchscreen technology, modern OS and price ranges to make a worthy comparison.
Poiesis 17y ago
> We don't know how it will compare against a similar range intel processor... Who cares? The consumers certainly don't. Hell, I don't. There are people out there who have used the device that say it's tremendously fast, not laggy. I don't care if it's using a 68000, or the latest from intel, or trained dust mites--it's the sizzle, not the steak.

by pavs 17y ago

tjmc 17y ago

"Apple fanboy" is kind of the generic term. I think "fawning sycophant" and "groveling lick-spittle" describe Gruber better.

simonw 17y ago
http://daringfireball.net/2009/08/ninjawords http://daringfireball.net/2009/08/ninjawords
- tjmc 17y ago
  Well chosen response. Guess I deserve the down mods of the grey t-shirt and commie star brigade!

FraaJad 17y ago

Gruber, the author is the alpha dog of mac fanboys. He sets the tone for the rest of the tribe. He is very good in what he does. What you see may be the remnants of the reality distortion field he was exposed to today ;)

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dasil003 17y ago
Does just the word "fan" even exist in tech circles anymore? According to my definition Gruber is by no means an Apple fanboy. Why? Because he is not scared to criticize Apple and most of his theses are objectively credible. Just because he likes Apple and often writes rebuttals to pundits who just don't get Apple (or more likely are trolling for hits) doesn't make him a fanboy. There's no doubt that the Apple fanboys all read him, but to call the man himself a fanboy is to drain the word of its whole connotation.

jodrellblank 17y ago

Article: ~"Apple is taking computing away from the focus on tech specs and focusing on the whole package. They've made their own CPU, they've put deep thought into the software, and it shows, this thing is fast". You: ~"Hold on, we don't know anything about the processor's specs. It can't feel fast to use for the end user until we can benchmark the CPU against an Intel CPU". Me: While knowing about the processor might be interesting, if Apple have combined software and hardware to make a fast to use device, what the numbers show the raw hardware is capable of is rather irrelevant - even if they were extra bad, that would just show the software was extra carefully tuned.

pavs 17y ago
Not sure you read the same article I read. Some exact quote: "But: everyone I spoke to in the press room was raving first and foremost about the speed. None of us could shut up about it. It feels impossibly fast. (And our next thought: What happens if Apple has figured out a way to make a CPU like A4 that fits in an iPhone? If they pull that off for this year’s new iPhone, look out.)" "Apple doesn’t just own and control a mobile CPU, they own and control the hands-down best mobile CPU in the world. Software aside (which is a huge thing to put aside), it may well be that no other company could make a device today matching the price, size, and performance of the iPad. They’re not getting into the CPU business for kicks, they’re getting into it to kick ass." Now that i reread the whole thing, the author sounds extremely delusional and I am tempted to question his tech knowledge and what he knows about the hardware besides being a raging apple fan boy.
- phil 17y ago
  So do you contend that there are other companies that could build a device comparable to the iPad? Who are they? Why aren't we hearing about their competitive offerings?
  - jodrellblank 17y ago
    http://gizmodo.com/5440207/netbook-tablets-get-capacitive-multitouch-with-the-ideapad-s10+3t http://gizmodo.com/5440207/netbook-tablets-get-capacitive-mu... looks pretty interesting. You can argue the details about whether an atom chip is a good alternative, but as a whole it's certainly in the right size, weight, battery life, touchscreen technology, modern OS and price ranges to make a worthy comparison.

Poiesis 17y ago

> We don't know how it will compare against a similar range intel processor... Who cares? The consumers certainly don't. Hell, I don't. There are people out there who have used the device that say it's tremendously fast, not laggy. I don't care if it's using a 68000, or the latest from intel, or trained dust mites--it's the sizzle, not the steak.