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I tend to rely on the Apple's UI guidelines. They have many hints that are applicable even for non-Apple apps. I remember Apple had a similar thing already back

by euske 11y ago

I tend to rely on the Apple's UI guidelines. They have many hints that are applicable even for non-Apple apps. I remember Apple had a similar thing already back in 80s, which I found amazing. https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/index.html https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/UserEx...

rsync 11y ago
Cycle through apps using command-tab. Cycle through a few times. See how it works. Now cycle through app-windows with command-` and see how that works .. completely differently.[1] So yes, even the wizards can get it wrong[2]. [1] command-tab has a proper "memory" allowing you to command-tab back and forth quickly between the two most recent apps. command-` is just ... weird. It sort of preserves sequence ... until you let go ? and then reverses sequence ... or something ? 8 years into OSX and I still am not sure what the algorithm is. [2] Not saying either is the right one - but they are both different, so one of them (as far as apple is concerned) is wrong.
- coldtea 11y ago
  >Not saying either is the right one - but they are both different, so one of them (as far as apple is concerned) is wrong. Or maybe each of them is appropriate for the (different) tasks it has to do?
PhantomGremlin 11y ago
I tend to rely on the Apple's UI guidelines. Please explain the OS X iTunes UI to me. It's beyond awful, and it seems to get worse with every update. If there were a death penalty for bad UI designers, and I were in charge of implementing it, I'd have the iTunes designers first against the wall. My guess is that iTunes doesn't follow Apple's guidelines?
- newscracker 11y ago
  Over time, iTunes has gotten very cryptic and undiscoverable in its features. I really wonder how users who're not well versed with computers even do anything with iTunes. Or maybe they don't even install it in the first place. :)

by euske 11y ago

rsync 11y ago

Cycle through apps using command-tab. Cycle through a few times. See how it works. Now cycle through app-windows with command-` and see how that works .. completely differently.[1] So yes, even the wizards can get it wrong[2]. [1] command-tab has a proper "memory" allowing you to command-tab back and forth quickly between the two most recent apps. command-` is just ... weird. It sort of preserves sequence ... until you let go ? and then reverses sequence ... or something ? 8 years into OSX and I still am not sure what the algorithm is. [2] Not saying either is the right one - but they are both different, so one of them (as far as apple is concerned) is wrong.

coldtea 11y ago
>Not saying either is the right one - but they are both different, so one of them (as far as apple is concerned) is wrong. Or maybe each of them is appropriate for the (different) tasks it has to do?

PhantomGremlin 11y ago

I tend to rely on the Apple's UI guidelines. Please explain the OS X iTunes UI to me. It's beyond awful, and it seems to get worse with every update. If there were a death penalty for bad UI designers, and I were in charge of implementing it, I'd have the iTunes designers first against the wall. My guess is that iTunes doesn't follow Apple's guidelines?

newscracker 11y ago
Over time, iTunes has gotten very cryptic and undiscoverable in its features. I really wonder how users who're not well versed with computers even do anything with iTunes. Or maybe they don't even install it in the first place. :)