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>If people really cared about their food coming from small, inefficient, "organic" farms then they would pay for what it really costs to produce food in that ma
by crdoconnor 11y ago
>If people really cared about their food coming from small, inefficient, "organic" farms then they would pay for what it really costs to produce food in that manner. The fact that people aren't willing to pay for it tells us that they don't actually care as much as they claimed. This is normal: most people will tell you they care deeply about something up until the point when you ask them to open their wallet, and then they remember that they don't care all that much.
Logically speaking either this is bullshit or everybody who has ever said that they are struggling to give up smoking is lying.
- asuffield 11y agoI believe you are making the common mistake of confusing what people really want (the desires they act on), and what they say they want. What people say they want is usually "the thing that they want to want" - it's a bit meta. You can call that "lying" if it makes you feel better, but pretty close to everybody does it.
- crdoconnor 11y ago>I believe you are making the common mistake of confusing what people really want (the desires they act on), and what they say they want. In other words drug addicts really want to be addicts. Otherwise they would have given up already. I suppose it's a useful canard if you're trying to justify American pro-corporate agricultural policy.
- asuffield 11y ago> In other words drug addicts really want to be addicts. That is a reasonably accurate definition of the word "addiction", yes. When they no longer want the drug, then they are not addicted to it any more (this is a good example of how hard it can be to really change your desires). You appear to have some unstated objection to the notion that a dysfunctional desire is still a desire. I don't think this conversation can make any meaningful progress if you continue to avoid stating it.