4 ms·

How is map building AI? It's a pretty mechanical process. Start somewhere, make some measurements, move along, repeat. At what point is there any notion of inte

How is map building AI? It's a pretty mechanical process. Start somewhere, make some measurements, move along, repeat. At what point is there any notion of intelligence involved?

dllthomas 11y ago
It's deeper than you describe... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_localization_and_mapping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_localization_and_... ... but I agree that there's nothing in particular that distinguishes it from other problems. My comment was satirical in nature. SLAM is an interpretation of what the parent comment had described: "[B]eing aware of your own location in space and time, as well as remembering previous locations. In other words, having some model of the world and knowing your place in it[.]". There is a general pattern of statements of the form "We'll only really have AI when computers X", followed by computers being able to X, followed by everyone concluding that X is just a simple matter of engineering like everything else we've already accomplished. As my AI prof put it, ages ago, "AI is the study of things that don't work yet."
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
- cwyers 11y ago
  Or it could be, a system capable of reasoning its way to doing X would be intelligent, but you can also teach to the test, so to speak, and build a system that does X without being generalizable and thus satisfy X without being intelligent.
  - dllthomas 11y ago
    That's sort of where a lot of people have arrived, to be sure, with distinguishing the notion of an "artificial general intelligence" from other things in the AI bucket.
  - gnaritas 11y ago
    > Or it could be, a system capable of reasoning its way to doing X would be intelligent, but you can also teach to the test, so to speak, and build a system that does X without being generalizable and thus satisfy X without being intelligent. Which is exactly what we do with many kids today; makes you wonder how many times we might invent AI and not know it because we don't raise it correctly so it appears too dumb to be considered a success.

How is map building AI? It's a pretty mechanical process. Start somewhere, make some measurements, move along, repeat. At what point is there any notion of intelligence involved?

dllthomas 11y ago

It's deeper than you describe... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_localization_and_mapping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_localization_and_... ... but I agree that there's nothing in particular that distinguishes it from other problems. My comment was satirical in nature. SLAM is an interpretation of what the parent comment had described: "[B]eing aware of your own location in space and time, as well as remembering previous locations. In other words, having some model of the world and knowing your place in it[.]". There is a general pattern of statements of the form "We'll only really have AI when computers X", followed by computers being able to X, followed by everyone concluding that X is just a simple matter of engineering like everything else we've already accomplished. As my AI prof put it, ages ago, "AI is the study of things that don't work yet."

deleted 11y ago
[deleted]
cwyers 11y ago
Or it could be, a system capable of reasoning its way to doing X would be intelligent, but you can also teach to the test, so to speak, and build a system that does X without being generalizable and thus satisfy X without being intelligent.
- dllthomas 11y ago
  That's sort of where a lot of people have arrived, to be sure, with distinguishing the notion of an "artificial general intelligence" from other things in the AI bucket.
- gnaritas 11y ago
  > Or it could be, a system capable of reasoning its way to doing X would be intelligent, but you can also teach to the test, so to speak, and build a system that does X without being generalizable and thus satisfy X without being intelligent. Which is exactly what we do with many kids today; makes you wonder how many times we might invent AI and not know it because we don't raise it correctly so it appears too dumb to be considered a success.