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A few of the statements by Miano, are factually wrong, and that's very troubling from someone who gives expert testimony to the Congress. >100,000 workers from

A few of the statements by Miano, are factually wrong, and that's very troubling from someone who gives expert testimony to the Congress. >100,000 workers from India alone will now be 'unleashed into the job market.' >And that's just from India, which Miano said accounts for roughly three-quarters of the waiting list. >Of course, DHS' vague reporting means the green card line could also be shorter than that, he acknowledged. What???!!! These people are already in the job market, actively working at this moment. The new rule will make it easier for them to switch jobs, thus making the job market more fair for American workers, since American companies(including staffing agencies) will have to pay more to retain these workers instead of paying them low by holding their visa hostage. >'And now we have this regulation, and it allows huge classes of aliens to work,' he said. They're already working!!!!!! @&^#@^#@^&# >After 10 years, 'if you're in the queue you would go home,' he said. Wrong, there is no limitation on the number of years, I know people from China and India who are in the queue for more than 12 years. I find it hard to digest that someone who is paid to work on these mattters full time can get so many facts wrong.

makmanalp 11y ago
It's yet another story trying to play on immigration fears, sadly. Plus, the daily mail isn't exactly known as a quality paper. Here is the linked legal analysis which is much more succinct and fact based: http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=fbbbbf91-15c2-4cff-850c-cd6e06bc7e2d http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=fbbbbf91-15c2-...
ntakasaki 11y ago
Relax, it's just literally Fox News reporting. The source is Breitbart, and both articles starting with "The Obama Administration...." should give you a clue that this is a hit piece and will not just bend facts, but outirght lie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News_Network Miano is just trying to sell his new book about this matter, co-authored with Michelle Malkin, a right wing Fox News contributor. So the more lies they can pile in, the better for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin Also, they don't like these new rules because big business can no longer stagnate wages for many immigrants stuck for decades in the immigration backlog. I guess they don't also don't like this provision which makes it easier to report employer abuses: >H-1B Whistleblowers: Establishing special eligibility for otherwise unavailable extensions and changes of status for H-1B “whistleblowers” who face retaliation for reporting an employer’s violation of an H-1B Labor Condition Application >I find it hard to digest that someone who is paid to work on these mattters full time can get so many facts wrong. Simple, think of them like you do used cars salesmen or lawyers, their job is to lie even if they know the truth, and their audience will know no better, so it works very well.
- hitekker 11y ago
  I agree that Breitbart is not a credible news organization and that Michelle Malkin wants to be another Ann Coulter, but I would hesitate to say that she's in big business's pocket. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sold_Out_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sold_Out_(book): >The book's publication follows media reporting that Pfizer,[4] Southern California Edison,[5] and Walt Disney World to name a few, have each forced hundreds of employees to train their foreign replacements or risk their severance, unemployment eligibility and professional references.[6] Additional studies cited conclude that a high percentage of qualified U.S. STEM professionals are unable to find employment in their field.[4][7] This is not to imply that the book is truth-filled, more that there may not be an alignment on this issue between Michelle Malkin and the rest of her peers.
DrScump 11y ago
You are missing the fact that these are a potential additional 100,000 positions. Those who leave the H1-B program for this program then free up those existing H1-B quota slots to be "reoccupied" by others. The net number goes up by the full 100,000 (or however many are awarded). BTW, the Sessions quote is in regard to H-2 visas, not H1-B or L-1 etc. H-2 variants are primarily agricultural.
- amlgsmsn 11y ago
  >You are missing the fact that these are a potential additional 100,000 positions. Those who leave the H1-B program for this program then free up those existing H1-B quota slots to be "reoccupied" by others. The net number goes up by the full 100,000 (or however many are awarded). Sorry but that couldn't be more wrong. There is no total H1-B quota. Only 65,000 new visas are awarded annually, renewable upto 6 years. After 6 years, they're renewable only if there is a pending green card application in valid status and they continue to work. The renewals don't count under the 65,000 quota. There will be exactly zero positions that can be "reoccupied" if these folks get a work permit or even a green card. >BTW, the Sessions quote is in regard to H-2 visas, not H1-B or L-1 etc. H-2 variants are primarily agricultural. Which Sessions quote are you referring to? I think all of my quotes were by Miano?
rrss1122 11y ago
Why will companies pay more when the labor supply will increase? The same company that was hiring foreign workers to save a buck won't pay extra to retain that worker. That company will now hire other entry level foreign workers who they can pay peanuts instead, who they can now hire because another company isn't holding their visa hostage anymore.
- ntakasaki 11y ago
  The new rules don't increase the labor supply.

makmanalp 11y ago

It's yet another story trying to play on immigration fears, sadly. Plus, the daily mail isn't exactly known as a quality paper. Here is the linked legal analysis which is much more succinct and fact based: http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=fbbbbf91-15c2-4cff-850c-cd6e06bc7e2d http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=fbbbbf91-15c2-...

ntakasaki 11y ago

Relax, it's just literally Fox News reporting. The source is Breitbart, and both articles starting with "The Obama Administration...." should give you a clue that this is a hit piece and will not just bend facts, but outirght lie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News_Network Miano is just trying to sell his new book about this matter, co-authored with Michelle Malkin, a right wing Fox News contributor. So the more lies they can pile in, the better for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin Also, they don't like these new rules because big business can no longer stagnate wages for many immigrants stuck for decades in the immigration backlog. I guess they don't also don't like this provision which makes it easier to report employer abuses: >H-1B Whistleblowers: Establishing special eligibility for otherwise unavailable extensions and changes of status for H-1B “whistleblowers” who face retaliation for reporting an employer’s violation of an H-1B Labor Condition Application >I find it hard to digest that someone who is paid to work on these mattters full time can get so many facts wrong. Simple, think of them like you do used cars salesmen or lawyers, their job is to lie even if they know the truth, and their audience will know no better, so it works very well.

hitekker 11y ago
I agree that Breitbart is not a credible news organization and that Michelle Malkin wants to be another Ann Coulter, but I would hesitate to say that she's in big business's pocket. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sold_Out_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sold_Out_(book): >The book's publication follows media reporting that Pfizer,[4] Southern California Edison,[5] and Walt Disney World to name a few, have each forced hundreds of employees to train their foreign replacements or risk their severance, unemployment eligibility and professional references.[6] Additional studies cited conclude that a high percentage of qualified U.S. STEM professionals are unable to find employment in their field.[4][7] This is not to imply that the book is truth-filled, more that there may not be an alignment on this issue between Michelle Malkin and the rest of her peers.

DrScump 11y ago

You are missing the fact that these are a potential additional 100,000 positions. Those who leave the H1-B program for this program then free up those existing H1-B quota slots to be "reoccupied" by others. The net number goes up by the full 100,000 (or however many are awarded). BTW, the Sessions quote is in regard to H-2 visas, not H1-B or L-1 etc. H-2 variants are primarily agricultural.

amlgsmsn 11y ago
>You are missing the fact that these are a potential additional 100,000 positions. Those who leave the H1-B program for this program then free up those existing H1-B quota slots to be "reoccupied" by others. The net number goes up by the full 100,000 (or however many are awarded). Sorry but that couldn't be more wrong. There is no total H1-B quota. Only 65,000 new visas are awarded annually, renewable upto 6 years. After 6 years, they're renewable only if there is a pending green card application in valid status and they continue to work. The renewals don't count under the 65,000 quota. There will be exactly zero positions that can be "reoccupied" if these folks get a work permit or even a green card. >BTW, the Sessions quote is in regard to H-2 visas, not H1-B or L-1 etc. H-2 variants are primarily agricultural. Which Sessions quote are you referring to? I think all of my quotes were by Miano?

rrss1122 11y ago

Why will companies pay more when the labor supply will increase? The same company that was hiring foreign workers to save a buck won't pay extra to retain that worker. That company will now hire other entry level foreign workers who they can pay peanuts instead, who they can now hire because another company isn't holding their visa hostage anymore.

ntakasaki 11y ago
The new rules don't increase the labor supply.