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FTA: "He highlighted how complicated history has woven the borders in the area close to where Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany touch, leaving enclaves and s

FTA: "He highlighted how complicated history has woven the borders in the area close to where Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany touch, leaving enclaves and strangely twisted borders" Hah, that's one way to describe it. There are pieces of the Netherlands inside pieces of Belgium inside the Netherlands, e.g.: https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B026'55.8%22N+4%C2%B056'30.8%22E/@51.4488293,4.9396925,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2%B026'55.8%22N+4%C2%B...

Someone 11y ago
There's also the weird situation on the Dutch-German border. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_(river)#Course https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_(river)#Course: "Between Emden and Delfzijl, the Ems forms the border between the Netherlands and Germany and is subject to mild dispute: the Dutch believe that the border runs through the geographical centre of the estuary, whereas the Germans claim it runs through the deepest channel (which is close to the Dutch coast). As the parties are now friendly states with an open border, the argument goes no further than an agreement to disagree. It became an active issue in late July, 1914, when the Imperial German government began plans to mine the whole of the estuary that they claimed, in preparation for the launching of the Great War. The Dutch envoy in Berlin, Wilem Alexander Frederik Baron Gevers tactfully announced the boundary was uncertain, and that the dispute was "opgeschort", which could mean either 'suspended' or 'resolved', depending on the context. The Dutch government endorsed the ambiguous declaration, thus relieving itself of an obligation to declare war on Germany for violating its neutrality. After the war, the dispute was resumed." Current status is that the two countries have formally agreed to disagree (https://www.dur.ac.uk/ibru/news/boundary_news/?itemno=22677 https://www.dur.ac.uk/ibru/news/boundary_news/?itemno=22677)
Retric 11y ago
I think that map should be part of every intro CS course. It's a great intro to a world where no you can't just use a bit to store gender. And names, yea lets not talk about names.
- ue_ 11y ago
  >no you can't just use a bit to store gender. Why not? The bit can store male/female and you can leave it NULL for "prefer not to say".
  - Retric 11y ago
    A bit does not get 3 values. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit
    - ue_ 11y ago
      True, though within a database you can leave a field as NULL.
DonaldFisk 11y ago
And pieces of Germany inside Belgium, here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.5988331,6.2002467,12z?hl=en https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.5988331,6.2002467,12z?hl=e...
ablation 11y ago
This reminds me very much of the Chine Mieville fiction book 'The City and The City'[1]. Worth reading if this has piqued your interest. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_%26_the_City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_%26_the_City

Someone 11y ago

There's also the weird situation on the Dutch-German border. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_(river)#Course https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_(river)#Course: "Between Emden and Delfzijl, the Ems forms the border between the Netherlands and Germany and is subject to mild dispute: the Dutch believe that the border runs through the geographical centre of the estuary, whereas the Germans claim it runs through the deepest channel (which is close to the Dutch coast). As the parties are now friendly states with an open border, the argument goes no further than an agreement to disagree. It became an active issue in late July, 1914, when the Imperial German government began plans to mine the whole of the estuary that they claimed, in preparation for the launching of the Great War. The Dutch envoy in Berlin, Wilem Alexander Frederik Baron Gevers tactfully announced the boundary was uncertain, and that the dispute was "opgeschort", which could mean either 'suspended' or 'resolved', depending on the context. The Dutch government endorsed the ambiguous declaration, thus relieving itself of an obligation to declare war on Germany for violating its neutrality. After the war, the dispute was resumed." Current status is that the two countries have formally agreed to disagree (https://www.dur.ac.uk/ibru/news/boundary_news/?itemno=22677 https://www.dur.ac.uk/ibru/news/boundary_news/?itemno=22677)

Retric 11y ago

I think that map should be part of every intro CS course. It's a great intro to a world where no you can't just use a bit to store gender. And names, yea lets not talk about names.

ue_ 11y ago
>no you can't just use a bit to store gender. Why not? The bit can store male/female and you can leave it NULL for "prefer not to say".
- Retric 11y ago
  A bit does not get 3 values. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit
  - ue_ 11y ago
    True, though within a database you can leave a field as NULL.

DonaldFisk 11y ago

And pieces of Germany inside Belgium, here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.5988331,6.2002467,12z?hl=en https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.5988331,6.2002467,12z?hl=e...

ablation 11y ago

This reminds me very much of the Chine Mieville fiction book 'The City and The City'[1]. Worth reading if this has piqued your interest. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_%26_the_City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_%26_the_City