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What to do with the resulting electric energy? (1) Smelt iron or aluminum? (2) Split H2O into O2 and H2 and use the H2 for fuel. (3) Convert water and coal t
by graycat 11y ago
What to do with the resulting electric energy?
(1) Smelt iron or aluminum?
(2) Split H2O into O2 and H2 and
use the H2 for fuel.
(3) Convert water and coal
to gasoline.
(4) Desalinate and/or purify water and use
the water for humans food and drink, bathing,
washing, swimming, lawns, greenhouse agriculture,
or just to make the desert bloom?
(5) Heat salt to store the energy, and
then run water through tubes in the
hot salt to generate high pressure
steam to drive steam turbines
and, then, electric generators
and, then, transmit the power
across the Mediterranean to Europe
and sell it?
Uses (1)-(4) have the advantages
that get just to use the power
while the sun is shining and
don't have to store the power
for nighttime use or
transmit the electric power long
distances. Would have
to transmit the hydrogen or
gasoline for those options.
In the words of the skeptical
mayor's wife in the movie
The Music Man, "I'm reticent.
Yes, I'm reticent."
Why? The idea is not nearly new.
So,
I do have to suspect that a good
engineering-economic analysis
would show that we would need
progress in:
(1) Keeping desert sand off the
solar panels.
(2) In case want to use the
electric energy to make
hydrocarbons, a good
source of coal
near the desert.
(3) Energy storage.
(4) Superconductivity for the
transmission lines across the
Mediterranean.
Might be able to pay for it if
the world can agree on some
huge carbon taxes.
Nukes might be be cheaper.
Might keep in mind that the spot,
wholesale cost of electric
power in the US has been
under $0.01 per KWH and the
full cost, say, ballpark $0.06.
So, the cost to a consumer of
10, 12, 22 or so cents per KWH
is mostly for distribution,
not generation. But
the panels in the desert
handle only the
generation part,
do nothing for the
short distance distribution
costs where the consumers
are and make the long distance
distribution, e.g., across the
Mediterranean, more expensive.
Also on the money side, might
want to keep in mind that
the major oil sources in the
Mideast pump oil for
less than $1 per barrel.
That price is tough to
compete with.
Right, might be shipping the
power to France which is
doing quite well with nukes.
Then once carbon taxes
start to take hold,
people might watch
'The Great Global Warming Swindle'
at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg
and discover the evidence that
CO2, methane, etc. from human
activities has nothing at all
to do with the climate or
temperature of earth
and, instead, changes in those
two are driven by
changes in the activity
level of the sun,
the sun spots,
the solar wind,
the blocking of
cosmic rays hitting
the atmosphere,
the rate of formation
of water droplets,
the rate of H2O cloud
formation, and, thus,
the cooling effect of
clouds.
Then people will object
to carbon taxes.
Net, it appears that
while the Watts of
solar energy per
1000 square miles of
desert are astoundingly high,
for
what people in the population centers want
in electric power,
motor fuel, clean water,
etc., that desert solar
power is just not very valuable.