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People should really understand how revolting what is happening. Watch the congressman indignant about spying on Israel. What is happening here is that they ar

People should really understand how revolting what is happening. Watch the congressman indignant about spying on Israel. What is happening here is that they are putting the privacy of a foreign country higher than US citizens. Politicians and the establishment actively force privileges for a PRIVILEGED CLASS. They treat foreign countries and corporations as being more important that US citizens. People need to see that there are fundamental problems with the establishments. This congressman never worries when the constitutional right of privacy is stripped from US citizens, but not from the privilege classes.

tertius 11y ago
May it be that the circumstances are more than just "privacy being stripped." For instance, what does the administration have to gain from spying en masse vs. what does that administration have to gain by spying specifically on another branch of government? I'm not saying either of those things are ethical, rather that the second one is different and we should be upset about it for different reasons. We can be upset at both, but to say they 100% the same is not understanding the larger situation. * I don't know the congressman's own record about spying on the populace, but if he's all for it then I don't agree with that.
themartorana 11y ago
Fantastic point. WSJ report that NSA spied on Congress and Israel communications very disturbing. Actually outrageous. Maybe unprecedented abuse of power. — Pete Hoekstra (@petehoekstra) December 30, 2015 If he was just upset at spying on Congress, that'd be one thing. In fact, (and mentioned in the article) Hoekstra basically scoffed at foreign leaders being mad about being targeted for surveillance. But we knew the NSA spied on Congress a while ago. You'll notice he has zero outrage for spying on US citizens. But the article outlines several of the most egregious hypocrisies. It's staggering how boldly our leaders in Congress support, then don't, mass warrantless surveillance when they find out they're part of the "mass."

tertius 11y ago

May it be that the circumstances are more than just "privacy being stripped." For instance, what does the administration have to gain from spying en masse vs. what does that administration have to gain by spying specifically on another branch of government? I'm not saying either of those things are ethical, rather that the second one is different and we should be upset about it for different reasons. We can be upset at both, but to say they 100% the same is not understanding the larger situation. * I don't know the congressman's own record about spying on the populace, but if he's all for it then I don't agree with that.

themartorana 11y ago

Fantastic point. WSJ report that NSA spied on Congress and Israel communications very disturbing. Actually outrageous. Maybe unprecedented abuse of power. — Pete Hoekstra (@petehoekstra) December 30, 2015 If he was just upset at spying on Congress, that'd be one thing. In fact, (and mentioned in the article) Hoekstra basically scoffed at foreign leaders being mad about being targeted for surveillance. But we knew the NSA spied on Congress a while ago. You'll notice he has zero outrage for spying on US citizens. But the article outlines several of the most egregious hypocrisies. It's staggering how boldly our leaders in Congress support, then don't, mass warrantless surveillance when they find out they're part of the "mass."