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Symbols are a powerful thing and are very important. ie: symbols are a big part of collective identity. Collective identity helps a mission.
by kevindeasis 11y ago
Symbols are a powerful thing and are very important. ie: symbols are a big part of collective identity. Collective identity helps a mission.
- mseepgood 11y agoCollective identity? We're all individuals.
- kevindeasis 11y agoFrom Wikipedia: "Collective identity is the shared sense of belonging to a group." I guess some nights for some people who aren't part of a group can be very lonely.
- suneilp 11y agoI get the point about belonging but your comment reeks of dehumanization. Join us or else.... That kind of attitude creates and/or enforces much of the negativity in this world such as the actions of cops alleged by Ian Murdock.
- kevindeasis 11y agoThat statement was about collective identity. Everyone has a collective identity. You are free to choose your own collective identity. Do whatever you want. If you say that you are not part of any collective identity, I'm not sure about that...
- johnchristopher 11y agoThere should be a Russel point just like there is a Godwin point.
- kevindeasis 11y agoIt's only right to balance the availability of internet adage. Might as well call it Russell's Law.
- mc808 11y agoI try very hard to avoid any collective identity for myself, even to the extent where a lot of people would say "I am a [verb]er," I consciously prefer "I [verb]." The collective identity mindset opens people up to manipulation, guilt by association, and undeserved praise by association (which sounds nice but can lead to poor decisions based on a distorted sense of self). Any benefits are comparatively small. You can still go [verb] with the [verb]ers without merging your identity and worldview with theirs.
- evanpw 11y agoThe "collective identity" component of this comes from the group of HN readers collectively deciding to upvote this to the top story for an extended period of time. I'm not sure what would be added to that by a single admin making a decision by fiat.
- kevindeasis 11y agoIt would add respect, status, etc.
- dave2000 11y agoNo, you can't just say that without backing it up. The Guardian (good, left-leaning UK paper) can't go more than a few days without a deadline like "We're all [name of someone who just died and who you've never heard of and won't again] now" or whatever. People get forgotten and all that matters is how much people have changed reality whilst alive (or what impact they have after they're dead). Just printing their name or a little slogan or icon or whatever...it literally means nothing, either at the time its printed or afterwards.
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