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> We do not routinely release information about what happens to bugs, so you should not expect a response. Which goes back to my original point about customer

by edent 11y ago

> We do not routinely release information about what happens to bugs, so you should not expect a response. Which goes back to my original point about customer trust. If you know I've reported a bug, why would you deliberately not tell me that it has been fixed? > so, at least 79% of bugs were not ignored Well, take a look at some of the ones which have been closed - https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/2on1fe/google_closed_11889_android_bugs_last_48_hours/ https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/2on1fe/google_c... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8803118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8803118 I know a good many people who work in Google - they're all smart and dedicated. But there's something about the corporate culture which imposes a "don't listen to external feedback" mindset. It's your OS and they're your apps - you can do what you like with them. But don't be surprised when users stop trusting you to listen to their concerns.

Eyas 11y ago
> If you know I've reported a bug, why would you deliberately not tell me that it has been fixed? Sounds like a typical fallacy of end-users looking at software. Assuming that the developer deliberately is denying you a feature, rather than having simply not spent the engineering time to make it possible. In this case, for instance, it could be that the pipeline to get from external feedback channels to Google's internal bug-trackers very one-way and its hard to go back. Or, there's a disconnect between when the fix ships and when the ticket is closed, and keeping track of the entire chain of data requires some work. Or, there's no easy distinguishing features on bugs that came externally to make them easily identifiable once fixed. Or, there's no process yet for an automated response that says the bug is fixed (should it provide more detail). Etc.
- edent 11y ago
  Hence, my first comment. > I get that filtering and testing millions of random bug reports from all corners of the Internet is hard - but it's a problem which Google desperately needs to solve if it wants to retain the trust of its users.
pygy_ 11y ago
> > We do not routinely release information about what happens to bugs, so you should not expect a response. > Which goes back to my original point about customer trust. If you know I've reported a bug, why would you deliberately not tell me that it has been fixed? Another example of http://danluu.com/wat/ http://danluu.com/wat/ (discussion:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10811822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10811822).
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by edent 11y ago

Eyas 11y ago

> If you know I've reported a bug, why would you deliberately not tell me that it has been fixed? Sounds like a typical fallacy of end-users looking at software. Assuming that the developer deliberately is denying you a feature, rather than having simply not spent the engineering time to make it possible. In this case, for instance, it could be that the pipeline to get from external feedback channels to Google's internal bug-trackers very one-way and its hard to go back. Or, there's a disconnect between when the fix ships and when the ticket is closed, and keeping track of the entire chain of data requires some work. Or, there's no easy distinguishing features on bugs that came externally to make them easily identifiable once fixed. Or, there's no process yet for an automated response that says the bug is fixed (should it provide more detail). Etc.

edent 11y ago
Hence, my first comment. > I get that filtering and testing millions of random bug reports from all corners of the Internet is hard - but it's a problem which Google desperately needs to solve if it wants to retain the trust of its users.

pygy_ 11y ago

> > We do not routinely release information about what happens to bugs, so you should not expect a response. > Which goes back to my original point about customer trust. If you know I've reported a bug, why would you deliberately not tell me that it has been fixed? Another example of http://danluu.com/wat/ http://danluu.com/wat/ (discussion:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10811822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10811822).

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