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> Stop whining and blaming Obama; there's no war against productive citizens, you aren't a victim. You don't get to complain... Everyone gets to complain, you

> Stop whining and blaming Obama; there's no war against productive citizens, you aren't a victim. You don't get to complain... Everyone gets to complain, you don't have a monopoly on it. > when you're among the wealthiest... Not everyone that is wealthy won the lotto. Some people actually worked for it (took risks, worked harder, etc).

gnaritas 11y ago
Yes, and some people should be ashamed of complaining in the name of decency. > How about when you are the among the ones that took the most risk in life, the ones that worked the hardest Ah, the just world fallacy and survivor-ship bias all in one. You didn't work the hardest or take the most risks, far more people who worked harder and took equal risks didn't get lucky.
- powertower 11y ago
  You're promoting the false narrative that if someone does better in life it is just chance and nothing else... If you fail, it's not your fault. If you succeed, it's not really your doing. The formula for success has more than the single variable of luck in it. Luck plays a part, but so does allot of other variables.
  - gnaritas 11y ago
    > You're promoting the false narrative that if someone does better in life it is just chance and nothing That's a straw-man, I didn't say it's "just" chance and it's called a fallacy, not a narrative, and it's a fact, not false. It's a cognitive bias all humans have to attribute their success to their own efforts, and that's what's false.
    - isolate 11y ago
      Reality is somewhere between the two positions being argued.
      - gnaritas 11y ago
        Reality is those biases exist, and chance plays a far greater role in everyone's lives than most like to admit; that's a fact. The just world fallacy is a fact. Survivorship bias is a fact. These are not debatable points, they're truths and they're true regardless of opinions to the contrary.

gnaritas 11y ago

Yes, and some people should be ashamed of complaining in the name of decency. > How about when you are the among the ones that took the most risk in life, the ones that worked the hardest Ah, the just world fallacy and survivor-ship bias all in one. You didn't work the hardest or take the most risks, far more people who worked harder and took equal risks didn't get lucky.

powertower 11y ago
You're promoting the false narrative that if someone does better in life it is just chance and nothing else... If you fail, it's not your fault. If you succeed, it's not really your doing. The formula for success has more than the single variable of luck in it. Luck plays a part, but so does allot of other variables.
- gnaritas 11y ago
  > You're promoting the false narrative that if someone does better in life it is just chance and nothing That's a straw-man, I didn't say it's "just" chance and it's called a fallacy, not a narrative, and it's a fact, not false. It's a cognitive bias all humans have to attribute their success to their own efforts, and that's what's false.
  - isolate 11y ago
    Reality is somewhere between the two positions being argued.
    - gnaritas 11y ago
      Reality is those biases exist, and chance plays a far greater role in everyone's lives than most like to admit; that's a fact. The just world fallacy is a fact. Survivorship bias is a fact. These are not debatable points, they're truths and they're true regardless of opinions to the contrary.