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This is going to change the whole computer market forever. Why would anyone (edit: a user who buys a below $1k machine) be inclined to purchase a netbook or ev

by tewks 17y ago

This is going to change the whole computer market forever. Why would anyone (edit: a user who buys a below $1k machine) be inclined to purchase a netbook or even a 13" PC instead of this?

runevault 17y ago
because we want an OS with extra functionality like background apps/etc? Especially the netbooks w/3g capability you can get subsidized. Does this add options to the market? Yes. Is it a game changer? Not even close.
- tewks 17y ago
  They are going to sell a lot of these. Game changer.
  - runevault 17y ago
    Maybe I'm crazy but gamechanger requires more than sales. The iPhone was a game changer because it redifined the market and got more people interested in smartphones, changing the entire cell phone industry.
    - tewks 17y ago
      Totally right. Sales aren't the only factor. It can matter for developers targeting users, though again not the only factor. In particular, as a developer, I'm excited about the opportunity to have solid multitouch on a bigger screen. The first example that comes to mind is the fact that numerous games and other apps aren't possible on the iPhone/touch because the screen isn't big enough, such as two-player games on the same screen.
_pi 17y ago
Because some of us, actually want a computer with more power than the iPad, or because the App store is a bad idea for end users and developers, or because some of us use netbooks and smaller laptops as our mobile coding machines when this thing doesn't even have a keyboard.
- tewks 17y ago
  Absolutely right; however, I'm trying to think about a large segment of consumers... I see no justification for buying a PC unless the user is a professional who really is tied to a particular workflow.
  - usaar333 17y ago
    1) How easy is the keyboard to use? I imagine most ppl at least occasionally need to do typing. (er, most ppl who can afford a $500 tablet). 2) I don't see many advantages of the tablet. A dead-simple ChromeOS netbook will run faster, do more, and be cheaper.
unexpected 17y ago
because we need a USB port?
- tewks 17y ago
  True - is it possible that they will allow digital cameras etc to be plugged in the way they used to with the iPod USB digital camera link? This was my first thought when they showed the Photos app.
  - philwelch 17y ago
    "The Camera Connection Kit gives you two ways to import photos and videos from a digital camera. The Camera Connector lets you import your photos and videos to iPad using the camera’s USB cable. Or you can use the SD Card Reader to import photos and videos directly from the camera’s SD card." http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
    - cjbos 17y ago
      What about support for external DVD players, burners, printers etc... I would be put off if USB connections were limited to importing photos from a camera.
      - philwelch 17y ago
        It's not going to support arbitrary USB devices, no.
  - cmelbye 17y ago
    They are making an accessory for the dock connector: http://images.apple.com/ipad/specs/images/usb_connectors_20100127.jpg http://images.apple.com/ipad/specs/images/usb_connectors_201...
waterlesscloud 17y ago
Because netbooks are cheaper, have a physical keyboard, and offer much more flexible use cases? Not to mention many, many, many, many more available apps?
mtomczak 17y ago
In the short run? Flash Player. If your browser doesn't support Flash, you are still getting a more fragmented web experience than the person running Windows XP on her $250 netbook.
shrughes 17y ago
People in poor countries.
mediaman 17y ago
Business users. You should see the number of sales teams and executives who are buying netbooks for simple, lightweight and long-life battery capacity use of mainstream business apps such as Outlook, Office, and custom ERP apps. They will not buy the iPad except for perhaps personal use at home.
usaar333 17y ago
I'm thinking of the question exactly the opposite. I have a $700 Dell Latitude E4300 (13" PC). It blows away the ipad in capabilities.
orangecat 17y ago
Why would anyone (edit: a user who buys a below $1k machine) be inclined to purchase a netbook or even a 13" PC instead of this? Some may want to type more than a sentence at a time, and some advanced power users may want to do wacky things like IMing while checking a website.

by tewks 17y ago

This is going to change the whole computer market forever. Why would anyone (edit: a user who buys a below $1k machine) be inclined to purchase a netbook or even a 13" PC instead of this?

runevault 17y ago

because we want an OS with extra functionality like background apps/etc? Especially the netbooks w/3g capability you can get subsidized. Does this add options to the market? Yes. Is it a game changer? Not even close.

tewks 17y ago
They are going to sell a lot of these. Game changer.
- runevault 17y ago
  Maybe I'm crazy but gamechanger requires more than sales. The iPhone was a game changer because it redifined the market and got more people interested in smartphones, changing the entire cell phone industry.
  - tewks 17y ago
    Totally right. Sales aren't the only factor. It can matter for developers targeting users, though again not the only factor. In particular, as a developer, I'm excited about the opportunity to have solid multitouch on a bigger screen. The first example that comes to mind is the fact that numerous games and other apps aren't possible on the iPhone/touch because the screen isn't big enough, such as two-player games on the same screen.

_pi 17y ago

Because some of us, actually want a computer with more power than the iPad, or because the App store is a bad idea for end users and developers, or because some of us use netbooks and smaller laptops as our mobile coding machines when this thing doesn't even have a keyboard.

tewks 17y ago
Absolutely right; however, I'm trying to think about a large segment of consumers... I see no justification for buying a PC unless the user is a professional who really is tied to a particular workflow.
- usaar333 17y ago
  1) How easy is the keyboard to use? I imagine most ppl at least occasionally need to do typing. (er, most ppl who can afford a $500 tablet). 2) I don't see many advantages of the tablet. A dead-simple ChromeOS netbook will run faster, do more, and be cheaper.

unexpected 17y ago

because we need a USB port?

tewks 17y ago
True - is it possible that they will allow digital cameras etc to be plugged in the way they used to with the iPod USB digital camera link? This was my first thought when they showed the Photos app.
- philwelch 17y ago
  "The Camera Connection Kit gives you two ways to import photos and videos from a digital camera. The Camera Connector lets you import your photos and videos to iPad using the camera’s USB cable. Or you can use the SD Card Reader to import photos and videos directly from the camera’s SD card." http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
  - cjbos 17y ago
    What about support for external DVD players, burners, printers etc... I would be put off if USB connections were limited to importing photos from a camera.
    - philwelch 17y ago
      It's not going to support arbitrary USB devices, no.
- cmelbye 17y ago
  They are making an accessory for the dock connector: http://images.apple.com/ipad/specs/images/usb_connectors_20100127.jpg http://images.apple.com/ipad/specs/images/usb_connectors_201...

waterlesscloud 17y ago

Because netbooks are cheaper, have a physical keyboard, and offer much more flexible use cases? Not to mention many, many, many, many more available apps?

mtomczak 17y ago

In the short run? Flash Player. If your browser doesn't support Flash, you are still getting a more fragmented web experience than the person running Windows XP on her $250 netbook.

shrughes 17y ago

People in poor countries.

mediaman 17y ago

Business users. You should see the number of sales teams and executives who are buying netbooks for simple, lightweight and long-life battery capacity use of mainstream business apps such as Outlook, Office, and custom ERP apps. They will not buy the iPad except for perhaps personal use at home.

usaar333 17y ago

I'm thinking of the question exactly the opposite. I have a $700 Dell Latitude E4300 (13" PC). It blows away the ipad in capabilities.

orangecat 17y ago

Why would anyone (edit: a user who buys a below $1k machine) be inclined to purchase a netbook or even a 13" PC instead of this? Some may want to type more than a sentence at a time, and some advanced power users may want to do wacky things like IMing while checking a website.