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I've got an idea if someone really wants to go on a hunt... This might seem incredibly nosy, but I don't think it would be too personal - check RadioReference f

I've got an idea if someone really wants to go on a hunt... This might seem incredibly nosy, but I don't think it would be too personal - check RadioReference for his city, they archive police scanner feeds, if you pay them a little, you can access the archives. If something happened and he was having some sort of mental health or drug problem, hopefully that would be mentioned, if something really did go down with the cops, you might hear a bit of that too. Might be interesting to see what exactly happened to him, just don't go jumping to any conclusions and starting witch hunts. This is crazy enough as it is and probably won't lead to a full picture in any case, but it might shed some light.

georgemcbay 11y ago
If the pastebinned tweets I've seen are really his then he was clearly unhinged when he made them. Whether that is due to head trauma or if the problems with the police came about because he was already having issues, I have no idea. Either way, while I totally understand his family's request for privacy, I do wish as a culture we felt more comfortable discussing things like this when they happen instead of basically all trying to sweep it under the rug. People shouldn't be shamed for having mental health issues, but neither should we expend so much effort on pretending like we don't have something of an epidemic going on in this area these days.
- barrkel 11y ago
  He sounded extremely angry, but unhinged isn't the word I'd use. If what he said was true, he had every right to be extremely angry.
- cc81 11y ago
  It is probably not so much discussing health issues as them having lost a loved one and don't want the Internet probing them for questions about him.
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- pc86 11y ago
  Nobody is trying to sweep anything under the rug but Christ, the man has been dead for less than 48 hours. I don't think giving people a few days or a week to process it and grieve is an unreasonable proposition.
- DanBC 11y ago
  You make a bunch of speculation, use slurs ("he was clearly unhinged") to talk about him, and then wonder why people ask for privacy?
  - mst 11y ago
    At least from a .uk idiomatic POV (or at least from mine), 'unhinged' is a description of a potentially temporary mental state (hence 'unhinged when' making sense as a conjugation) rather than an attempt to attack the mentally ill. I'm not fond of the speculation, though, but can find nothing to say about it beyond that that wouldn't merely be adding my own speculation and thereby exacerbating that aspect. Or: You can apply the principle of charity to somebody's choice of words and still critique their point, and that often works out better in terms of constructive results.
    - mystikal 11y ago
      Mental illness is primarily characterized by temporary states. Personally I don't think you can be "unhinged" without being mentally ill. It's better to use language that more accurately characterizes the situation, than something which is just a synonym for crazy.
      - mst 11y ago
        > Personally I don't think you can be "unhinged" without being mentally ill I consider that attitude to be deeply unfortunate and to be unfair both to the temporarily unhinged and to the long term mentally ill. If you had a term that was an alternative to unhinged that didn't make your socially conditioned prejudices twitch, I'd have preferred you shared it rather than simply attack both groups for using language that they consider to be accurate (because then you wouldn't've managed to insult most of my friends in one tone deaf unconstructive reply)
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orionblastar 11y ago
I can tell you that the police don't treat the mentally ill very well. They are not trained in helping out the mentally ill. I got a friend who is mentally ill and is homeless sometimes, police beat him up and arrested him for being at a McDonald's on his Macbook. He was in jail for a year, gave him the wrong psyche meds, kept delaying his preliminary hearing until he had to plead guilty to get out of jail. Charged with threaten with intent to terrorize and only the police officer's word against his for evidence. I am mentally ill myself, I became disabled in 2003. In the IT industry one has to keep the mental illness a secret or else they lose their job or end up not being hired for jobs. Basically my career was over when I developed a mental illness. I can tell by Ian's tweets that he was not in his right mind. I hope his family files a lawsuit against the police, because they basically forced him into suicide for whatever they did.
- ladadadabing 11y ago
  The police were called because he was drunk and trying to break into someone's home. Then returned and was banging on another door. He died the next day, and not in police presence, but you want to blame the police for his actions? His actions which caused at least two citizens to fear danger to themselves that they felt they needed protection from him? This is all the police' fault? May I ask your age and education level? Do you always blame others for your actions and when bad things happen to you? Especially those things that offend others in your neighborhood and among friends?
- ladadadabing 11y ago
  The police were called because he was drunk and trying to break into someone's home. Then returned and was banging on another door. He died the next day, and not in police presence, but you want to blame the police for his actions?
- Grishnakh 11y ago
  >I can tell you that the police don't treat the mentally ill very well. They are not trained in helping out the mentally ill. The problem isn't training. You don't need training to be nice to people and not beat them senseless, nor do you need to be a genius to see when someone is having mental problems, or to know that being an asshole to someone who's clearly suicidal isn't helpful. The problem is that the police in the USA are largely evil. There's no other explanation for it. You have to be an evil person to enjoy beating other people, not to mention shooting them in the back and other violent things that our police do to people on a daily basis.
jeffdubin 11y ago
If he was in a city of any decent sized police force, it's likely that the authorities were dispatched via a mobile data terminal -- and you wouldn't hear anything about it over the air.

georgemcbay 11y ago

If the pastebinned tweets I've seen are really his then he was clearly unhinged when he made them. Whether that is due to head trauma or if the problems with the police came about because he was already having issues, I have no idea. Either way, while I totally understand his family's request for privacy, I do wish as a culture we felt more comfortable discussing things like this when they happen instead of basically all trying to sweep it under the rug. People shouldn't be shamed for having mental health issues, but neither should we expend so much effort on pretending like we don't have something of an epidemic going on in this area these days.

barrkel 11y ago
He sounded extremely angry, but unhinged isn't the word I'd use. If what he said was true, he had every right to be extremely angry.
cc81 11y ago
It is probably not so much discussing health issues as them having lost a loved one and don't want the Internet probing them for questions about him.
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pc86 11y ago
Nobody is trying to sweep anything under the rug but Christ, the man has been dead for less than 48 hours. I don't think giving people a few days or a week to process it and grieve is an unreasonable proposition.
DanBC 11y ago
You make a bunch of speculation, use slurs ("he was clearly unhinged") to talk about him, and then wonder why people ask for privacy?
- mst 11y ago
  At least from a .uk idiomatic POV (or at least from mine), 'unhinged' is a description of a potentially temporary mental state (hence 'unhinged when' making sense as a conjugation) rather than an attempt to attack the mentally ill. I'm not fond of the speculation, though, but can find nothing to say about it beyond that that wouldn't merely be adding my own speculation and thereby exacerbating that aspect. Or: You can apply the principle of charity to somebody's choice of words and still critique their point, and that often works out better in terms of constructive results.
  - mystikal 11y ago
    Mental illness is primarily characterized by temporary states. Personally I don't think you can be "unhinged" without being mentally ill. It's better to use language that more accurately characterizes the situation, than something which is just a synonym for crazy.
    - mst 11y ago
      > Personally I don't think you can be "unhinged" without being mentally ill I consider that attitude to be deeply unfortunate and to be unfair both to the temporarily unhinged and to the long term mentally ill. If you had a term that was an alternative to unhinged that didn't make your socially conditioned prejudices twitch, I'd have preferred you shared it rather than simply attack both groups for using language that they consider to be accurate (because then you wouldn't've managed to insult most of my friends in one tone deaf unconstructive reply)
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orionblastar 11y ago

I can tell you that the police don't treat the mentally ill very well. They are not trained in helping out the mentally ill. I got a friend who is mentally ill and is homeless sometimes, police beat him up and arrested him for being at a McDonald's on his Macbook. He was in jail for a year, gave him the wrong psyche meds, kept delaying his preliminary hearing until he had to plead guilty to get out of jail. Charged with threaten with intent to terrorize and only the police officer's word against his for evidence. I am mentally ill myself, I became disabled in 2003. In the IT industry one has to keep the mental illness a secret or else they lose their job or end up not being hired for jobs. Basically my career was over when I developed a mental illness. I can tell by Ian's tweets that he was not in his right mind. I hope his family files a lawsuit against the police, because they basically forced him into suicide for whatever they did.

ladadadabing 11y ago
The police were called because he was drunk and trying to break into someone's home. Then returned and was banging on another door. He died the next day, and not in police presence, but you want to blame the police for his actions? His actions which caused at least two citizens to fear danger to themselves that they felt they needed protection from him? This is all the police' fault? May I ask your age and education level? Do you always blame others for your actions and when bad things happen to you? Especially those things that offend others in your neighborhood and among friends?
ladadadabing 11y ago
The police were called because he was drunk and trying to break into someone's home. Then returned and was banging on another door. He died the next day, and not in police presence, but you want to blame the police for his actions?
Grishnakh 11y ago
>I can tell you that the police don't treat the mentally ill very well. They are not trained in helping out the mentally ill. The problem isn't training. You don't need training to be nice to people and not beat them senseless, nor do you need to be a genius to see when someone is having mental problems, or to know that being an asshole to someone who's clearly suicidal isn't helpful. The problem is that the police in the USA are largely evil. There's no other explanation for it. You have to be an evil person to enjoy beating other people, not to mention shooting them in the back and other violent things that our police do to people on a daily basis.

jeffdubin 11y ago

If he was in a city of any decent sized police force, it's likely that the authorities were dispatched via a mobile data terminal -- and you wouldn't hear anything about it over the air.