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Very few people know the cause of death right now, but the speculation is pretty convincing to me that it was suicide after allegedly being a victim of police b

Very few people know the cause of death right now, but the speculation is pretty convincing to me that it was suicide after allegedly being a victim of police brutality and rape by police officer. Of course, this isn't confirmed. But if it is, oh the anger. Even if it isn't, this is a damned shame.

jarcane 11y ago
Here's a pastebin of his last tweets: http://pastebin.com/yk8bgru5 http://pastebin.com/yk8bgru5
- seibelj 11y ago
  What was up with all the racist stuff? Totally bizarre
  - pen2l 11y ago
    It wasn't racist. As others have pointed out, Ian was making a statement about certain demographics being ignored when they speak about police brutality. It's very clear for those who have known Ian personally over the years what he meant (I agree it sounds weird for those who may not have known Ian very well, I guess that happened because he was in a very panicked state of mind and didn't really think how things could be taken)
  - dpeck 11y ago
    I didn't read it as him being racist. The wording may have been harsh, but I read it as saying that police brutality isn't something that only happens to black people. I would think any racist feelings he had would have come to light long before now.
  - ianremsen 11y ago
    I'm sure he used said language in a provocative and mocking manner, not because he was actually racist or racially insensitive. I'm sure the stress and pain of the situation didn't help him choose his words thoughtfully.
  - bjackman 11y ago
    I think he's not being racist, rather intending to highlight the racism of others: "They don't care when the victim of brutality is black, maybe they'll care when it's a wealthy white man"
  - bitL 11y ago
    Could be a major head injury that is later fatal if untreated - that can cause immediate personality changes. I don't think Ian was used to be beaten regularly to withstand that...
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- hkmurakami 11y ago
  Thanks. That was difficult to read and frankly distressing (it has certainly affected my own mental state at the moment), but I am glad I got to read it so that I can have this inform my perspective regarding the abuse of power by police in the ongoing future (Admittedly I had been on the blase side on the matter, and like Ian himself wrote, "i'm hoping coming from a successful white guy it will help everyone").
- noobermin 11y ago
  Is this really true? This is almost stranger than fiction. I mean, anyone can post something on pastebin. Can anyone else vouch for the truth of this (Having seen it on twitter).
  - lettergram 11y ago
    Here is the reddit discussion from yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3yktcg/ian_murdock_debian_founder_is_threatening_suicide/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3yktcg/ian_murdock_d...
  - merlincorey 11y ago
    Yes, it was on twitter yesterday. * http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCjuRxgJ:https://twitter.com/imurdock+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nl http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCj... * http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:umvcoAjl8SIJ:https://twitter.com/imurdock/status/681598929205526528+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nl http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:umvcoAj...
  - jansanchez 11y ago
    Seems to be true, per google's webcache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCjuRxgJ:https://twitter.com/imurdock+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCj...
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  - nice_byte 11y ago
    It's true, I saw it with my own eyes before the account got deleted.
Nrsolis 11y ago
I don't think he was actually raped. Sounds more like he resisted a body-search upon intake processing for jail.
- sarciszewski 11y ago
  That's what the allegation was, on his Twitter feed, so that's what I wrote. For the record, I agree that you're probably correct.
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- VeilEm 11y ago
  I am saddened by this loss. Everyone should know that even if you think you are being wronged that you must listen to and obey every instruction a police officer gives you. If they did something wrong you can bring it up to your lawyer afterward. Resisting will pretty much always make the situation worse. Police use force. This can be surprising. Sometimes they use it when you may not think it's warranted. You might have thought you presented no threat. When police start to raise their voice and use force the last thing you should do is get upset. You just need to do whatever you can to listen to their instructions and do what they tell you. They may continue to use physical force like pushing, punching, twisting and causing you pain even if you are listening to everything they are saying and trying your best. The hard truth is you just have to deal with it. Resisting will only make it worse, and even puts your life at risk. If you can, it's best to avoid police whenever possible. If police show up just leave. If they stop you on the road stay calm, don't argue, do what they say and try to share as little information as possible.
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  - VeilEm 11y ago
    I'd certainly like to know how of those down voting me think I am wrong. Are you going to resist arrest and think that will turn out well? Maybe you don't like reality, but it is what it is. The police frequently have to deal with dangerous people, thus they are trained to use force to subdue and arrest. You cannot question an arrest as it is happening. Your right to due process happens in court after the arrest, not on the street. Again the best thing to do is to just avoid encounters with police in the first place. I'd like for someone to comment as to why they down voted.

jarcane 11y ago

Here's a pastebin of his last tweets: http://pastebin.com/yk8bgru5 http://pastebin.com/yk8bgru5

seibelj 11y ago
What was up with all the racist stuff? Totally bizarre
- pen2l 11y ago
  It wasn't racist. As others have pointed out, Ian was making a statement about certain demographics being ignored when they speak about police brutality. It's very clear for those who have known Ian personally over the years what he meant (I agree it sounds weird for those who may not have known Ian very well, I guess that happened because he was in a very panicked state of mind and didn't really think how things could be taken)
- dpeck 11y ago
  I didn't read it as him being racist. The wording may have been harsh, but I read it as saying that police brutality isn't something that only happens to black people. I would think any racist feelings he had would have come to light long before now.
- ianremsen 11y ago
  I'm sure he used said language in a provocative and mocking manner, not because he was actually racist or racially insensitive. I'm sure the stress and pain of the situation didn't help him choose his words thoughtfully.
- bjackman 11y ago
  I think he's not being racist, rather intending to highlight the racism of others: "They don't care when the victim of brutality is black, maybe they'll care when it's a wealthy white man"
- bitL 11y ago
  Could be a major head injury that is later fatal if untreated - that can cause immediate personality changes. I don't think Ian was used to be beaten regularly to withstand that...
- deleted 11y ago
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hkmurakami 11y ago
Thanks. That was difficult to read and frankly distressing (it has certainly affected my own mental state at the moment), but I am glad I got to read it so that I can have this inform my perspective regarding the abuse of power by police in the ongoing future (Admittedly I had been on the blase side on the matter, and like Ian himself wrote, "i'm hoping coming from a successful white guy it will help everyone").
noobermin 11y ago
Is this really true? This is almost stranger than fiction. I mean, anyone can post something on pastebin. Can anyone else vouch for the truth of this (Having seen it on twitter).
- lettergram 11y ago
  Here is the reddit discussion from yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3yktcg/ian_murdock_debian_founder_is_threatening_suicide/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3yktcg/ian_murdock_d...
- merlincorey 11y ago
  Yes, it was on twitter yesterday. * http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCjuRxgJ:https://twitter.com/imurdock+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nl http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCj... * http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:umvcoAjl8SIJ:https://twitter.com/imurdock/status/681598929205526528+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nl http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:umvcoAj...
- jansanchez 11y ago
  Seems to be true, per google's webcache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCjuRxgJ:https://twitter.com/imurdock+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:le7oSCj...
- deleted 11y ago
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- nice_byte 11y ago
  It's true, I saw it with my own eyes before the account got deleted.

Nrsolis 11y ago

I don't think he was actually raped. Sounds more like he resisted a body-search upon intake processing for jail.

sarciszewski 11y ago
That's what the allegation was, on his Twitter feed, so that's what I wrote. For the record, I agree that you're probably correct.
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VeilEm 11y ago
I am saddened by this loss. Everyone should know that even if you think you are being wronged that you must listen to and obey every instruction a police officer gives you. If they did something wrong you can bring it up to your lawyer afterward. Resisting will pretty much always make the situation worse. Police use force. This can be surprising. Sometimes they use it when you may not think it's warranted. You might have thought you presented no threat. When police start to raise their voice and use force the last thing you should do is get upset. You just need to do whatever you can to listen to their instructions and do what they tell you. They may continue to use physical force like pushing, punching, twisting and causing you pain even if you are listening to everything they are saying and trying your best. The hard truth is you just have to deal with it. Resisting will only make it worse, and even puts your life at risk. If you can, it's best to avoid police whenever possible. If police show up just leave. If they stop you on the road stay calm, don't argue, do what they say and try to share as little information as possible.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
- VeilEm 11y ago
  I'd certainly like to know how of those down voting me think I am wrong. Are you going to resist arrest and think that will turn out well? Maybe you don't like reality, but it is what it is. The police frequently have to deal with dangerous people, thus they are trained to use force to subdue and arrest. You cannot question an arrest as it is happening. Your right to due process happens in court after the arrest, not on the street. Again the best thing to do is to just avoid encounters with police in the first place. I'd like for someone to comment as to why they down voted.