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I saw this apparent response: Chih-Wei, We have repeatedly said, including in emails (both before and) following this that went unresponsive to afterwards, th

by gtk40 11y ago

I saw this apparent response: Chih-Wei, We have repeatedly said, including in emails (both before and) following this that went unresponsive to afterwards, that we wanted to collaborate and contribute. We simply were not willing to pay money up front to do so. You will be free to take any improvements we make to Console OS on GitHub and integrate them upstream. We didn't go to all this effort to make a bunch of empty device trees, and call it a day. If you want to discuss this further, with a path to resolving it - my door is open. But this list is not the place to do it. Continuing to repeat the same points here, only slows my ability to lead our team to deliver - attempting to stop a legitimate fork by these means, will not succeed. Edit: Fix formatting

VikingCoder 11y ago
A legitimate fork is only legitimate if the rationale for it is legitimate. Chih-Wei is not only refuting your stated rationale, but is offering an additional 64% of your budget, to merely prove that your past statements are true. It's hard to imagine that increasing your budget by 64% would have the net effect of "slowing your ability to lead your team to deliver," if you merely do what you claimed you previously wanted to do and were prepared to do. Since your past statements included disparaging remarks about Chih-Wei, if you fail to meet his challenge - or rationally explain why you cannot or will not rise to it - it makes you look like a libelous and incompetent sack of crap. Just my personal opinion.
- DHowett 11y ago
  (You are not responding to some who represents ConsoleOS. Rather, you are responding to a quote attributed to such a person.)
  - VikingCoder 11y ago
    (Thanks, I know.)
ArcticCelt 11y ago
For readability for people who don't have a 15 360 X 1080 screen: Chih-Wei, We have repeatedly said, including in emails (both before and) following this that went unresponsive to afterwards, that we wanted to collaborate and contribute. We simply were not willing to pay money up front to do so. You will be free to take any improvements we make to Console OS on GitHub and integrate them upstream. We didn't go to all this effort to make a bunch of empty device trees, and call it a day. If you want to discuss this further, with a path to resolving it - my door is open. But this list is not the place to do it. Continuing to repeat the same points here, only slows my ability to lead our team to deliver - attempting to stop a legitimate fork by these means, will not succeed.

by gtk40 11y ago

VikingCoder 11y ago

A legitimate fork is only legitimate if the rationale for it is legitimate. Chih-Wei is not only refuting your stated rationale, but is offering an additional 64% of your budget, to merely prove that your past statements are true. It's hard to imagine that increasing your budget by 64% would have the net effect of "slowing your ability to lead your team to deliver," if you merely do what you claimed you previously wanted to do and were prepared to do. Since your past statements included disparaging remarks about Chih-Wei, if you fail to meet his challenge - or rationally explain why you cannot or will not rise to it - it makes you look like a libelous and incompetent sack of crap. Just my personal opinion.

DHowett 11y ago
(You are not responding to some who represents ConsoleOS. Rather, you are responding to a quote attributed to such a person.)
- VikingCoder 11y ago
  (Thanks, I know.)

ArcticCelt 11y ago

For readability for people who don't have a 15 360 X 1080 screen: Chih-Wei, We have repeatedly said, including in emails (both before and) following this that went unresponsive to afterwards, that we wanted to collaborate and contribute. We simply were not willing to pay money up front to do so. You will be free to take any improvements we make to Console OS on GitHub and integrate them upstream. We didn't go to all this effort to make a bunch of empty device trees, and call it a day. If you want to discuss this further, with a path to resolving it - my door is open. But this list is not the place to do it. Continuing to repeat the same points here, only slows my ability to lead our team to deliver - attempting to stop a legitimate fork by these means, will not succeed.