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> Their business is being a trustworthy, high quality service. Really. Here I thought their business is renting out servers made from desktop parts for insanel

by chx 11y ago

> Their business is being a trustworthy, high quality service. Really. Here I thought their business is renting out servers made from desktop parts for insanely low amounts of money. I have no problems with this strategy, I enjoy my 42EUR a month 2x3TB HDD + 2x120GB SSD, 16GB i7 2600 server, thanks much. It runs hobby sites and such. I know what I bought and what I can expect.

5ersi 11y ago
They also offer reasonably priced server-class dedicated servers with Xeon processors, ECC memory and datacenter-series SSDs.
- merb 11y ago
  "reasonably priced". You never needed a private network with 3 nodes.
  - corford 11y ago
    €12,61/month extra per server and a one off ~€25 for the switch is hardly extortionate given what they charge for servers...
    - merb 11y ago
      no. you've forgotten something. you need to pay at least the flexi pack for ever server, too. So your math is Switch + 12.95/month (per server) + 15 /month (per server) and now you outpriced nearly every cloud.
      - corford 11y ago
        The €12,61 I mentioned is the Flexi-Pack charge (just without VAT). There are no other costs apart from a one off charge of ~€25 to install a switch.
        merb 11y ago
        with the flexi pack you need to pay an additional cost of the second network card you need.
        corford 11y ago
        Ah ok. I've only ever rented servers from them that already had a second NIC present (so I just needed to pay the flexi-pack charge to activate it). Didn't realise they also sold servers with single NICs.
        merb 11y ago
        Most of them are. Only if you use the "bigger" ones which aren't cheaper than the cloud providers anyway so. If you care for pricing it's cheaper to either have a colocation or a cloud or a own datacenter. renting servers is mostly not cheap if you need more than a single server. I mean most people's need definitely suites inside the cloud since they don't need to have the full capacity 24 hours. There are some other people who need the full capacity every time, but if you run a globally distributed services you mostly run into other problems than datacenter costs.
        corford 11y ago
        In my case, I have three servers (each with ECC 32GB, Xenon quad core, 2x3TB disks and unlimited bandwidth), a 5 port internal switch, two public IPv4 addresses per server, a public failover IP, 300GB of network backup space and two additional rack slots reserved in the same rack for future expansion. The total monthly cost for this (exc. VAT) is €180. I haven't been able to find any co-location or cloud providers that can come anywhere close to that price for a similar resource setup.
corford 11y ago
They do offer cheap and cheerful desktop grade gear but their PX and R ranges are server grade (Xeon chips, ECC memory etc). They offer PowerEdge boxes too. I've been a customer for a while but needed some spare, cheap server grade boxes this month. Decided to give their server bidding system a try and picked up two 32GB quad-core Xeon boxes (with 2x3TB SATA disks, Intel NICs and unlimited bandwidth) for €39/month each. So far, no complaints.

by chx 11y ago

5ersi 11y ago

They also offer reasonably priced server-class dedicated servers with Xeon processors, ECC memory and datacenter-series SSDs.

merb 11y ago
"reasonably priced". You never needed a private network with 3 nodes.
- corford 11y ago
  €12,61/month extra per server and a one off ~€25 for the switch is hardly extortionate given what they charge for servers...
  - merb 11y ago
    no. you've forgotten something. you need to pay at least the flexi pack for ever server, too. So your math is Switch + 12.95/month (per server) + 15 /month (per server) and now you outpriced nearly every cloud.
    - corford 11y ago
      The €12,61 I mentioned is the Flexi-Pack charge (just without VAT). There are no other costs apart from a one off charge of ~€25 to install a switch.
      - merb 11y ago
        with the flexi pack you need to pay an additional cost of the second network card you need.
        corford 11y ago
        Ah ok. I've only ever rented servers from them that already had a second NIC present (so I just needed to pay the flexi-pack charge to activate it). Didn't realise they also sold servers with single NICs.
        merb 11y ago
        Most of them are. Only if you use the "bigger" ones which aren't cheaper than the cloud providers anyway so. If you care for pricing it's cheaper to either have a colocation or a cloud or a own datacenter. renting servers is mostly not cheap if you need more than a single server. I mean most people's need definitely suites inside the cloud since they don't need to have the full capacity 24 hours. There are some other people who need the full capacity every time, but if you run a globally distributed services you mostly run into other problems than datacenter costs.
        corford 11y ago
        In my case, I have three servers (each with ECC 32GB, Xenon quad core, 2x3TB disks and unlimited bandwidth), a 5 port internal switch, two public IPv4 addresses per server, a public failover IP, 300GB of network backup space and two additional rack slots reserved in the same rack for future expansion. The total monthly cost for this (exc. VAT) is €180. I haven't been able to find any co-location or cloud providers that can come anywhere close to that price for a similar resource setup.

corford 11y ago

They do offer cheap and cheerful desktop grade gear but their PX and R ranges are server grade (Xeon chips, ECC memory etc). They offer PowerEdge boxes too. I've been a customer for a while but needed some spare, cheap server grade boxes this month. Decided to give their server bidding system a try and picked up two 32GB quad-core Xeon boxes (with 2x3TB SATA disks, Intel NICs and unlimited bandwidth) for €39/month each. So far, no complaints.