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Interesting puzzle. I had to look up why the name was significant. The algorithm seemed pretty clear after a few rolls. Upon looking up the puzzle, I found I ha
by Pfhreak 11y ago
Interesting puzzle. I had to look up why the name was significant. The algorithm seemed pretty clear after a few rolls. Upon looking up the puzzle, I found I had a different algorithm than the one presented as a solution on wikipedia that resulted in the same output.
Edit: Which made the post's conclusion strange to me, if the name is not required to understanding the problem, why should Bill's interpretation be so surprising?
Edit2: Do people have other good examples of puzzles like this? I'm aware of Zendo [1] which is a similar inductive reasoning game.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendo_%28game%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendo_%28game%29
- klodolph 11y agoThe name isn't required, of course. It's just a clue.
- brazzledazzle 11y agoIt arguably feels like a bigger accomplishment to deduce it from the clue. Kind of like a riddle.
- mosquito242 11y agoNot exactly a puzzle, but a good game of Mao is always a fun challenge.
- dpark 11y agoI'm curious what algorithm you came up with that yields the same outputs but isn't effectively the same. I could probably create a formula that doesn't directly reveal the key, but it would really just be an obfuscation of the real rule. Edit: Actually, I see one other interpretation that relies on bqq if rira (minor spoiler). I guess if you arrive at this first, the name seems irrelevant. Edit2: Rot13 for minor spoiler
- bbarn 11y agoGur fhz bs gur frg bs bqq qvpr, zvahf gur pbhag bs bqq qvpr.
- ndnichols 11y agoI played a similar game with some folks once, but I don't know the game's name. The person who knew the rule(s) explained that there was a planet that was like Earth, but it only had a subset of the things that Earth had. We guessed different things on Earth, and the teacher would tell us whether or not this other planet had them. Some samples include: Planet has apples, green grass, trees, runners, and cheese pizza. Planet does not have bananas, plants, people, hamburgers, cats, dogs, houses. I won't put the rule(s) here in case people want to try it.
- greggyb 11y agoI learned this as the Green Glass Door. Everything in the title is also valid to go through the green glass door.
- dpark 11y agoPlanet has summer but not winter, and fall but but not spring, right?
- Nogwater 11y agoNot exactly the same premise, but I've heard it called "Queen Anne Likes".
- function_seven 11y agoI know it as "In a Cool World..." As in, "In a cool world, there is jelly but no bread", and, "In a cool world, we go skiing, but never snowboard."
- Jtsummers 11y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusis_(card_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusis_(card_game) Found it in one of the Martin Gardner books. Various rules I've found online: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5217/eleusis https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5217/eleusis http://howell.seattle.wa.us/games/rules/Eleusis.html http://howell.seattle.wa.us/games/rules/Eleusis.html http://www.bicyclecards.ca/game-rules/eleusis/189.php?page_id=32 http://www.bicyclecards.ca/game-rules/eleusis/189.php?page_i... http://www.nhn.ou.edu/~kieran/eleusis.pdf http://www.nhn.ou.edu/~kieran/eleusis.pdf The rules vary, and all these seem different than what I read in Martin Gardner's article. A quick and easy version of it can be played with a single deck, sheet of paper (to record the rules) and 3+ participants (dealer + at least 2 players, more is better, too many needs more decks).
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- e28eta 11y agoWikipedia has a (short) list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_concealed_rules https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_concealed_r...