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I did not arrive fearing for my life but so did not the guy from Germany or Singapore. Why should birthplace of a person be allowed as a criteria for discrimina

I did not arrive fearing for my life but so did not the guy from Germany or Singapore. Why should birthplace of a person be allowed as a criteria for discrimination. Are you serious, you never heard of families under strain because 6 years into their Green Card application they had to suddenly leave, while at the same time other countries citizen could get a job. Or where someone on OPT couldn't leave to visit their dying parents since his attorney warned him that he might not be given entry. Not everyone is born with silverspoon. Or families torn apart. All that means nothing? Your extensive use of "I" indicates general inability to empathize. with such a narcissistic frame of reference no doubt everything is "fake" according to you. Asking for just, fair and equal treatment regardless of the nationality and place of birth is not being a "fake victim". It's a cause worth fighting for.

ashwinaj 11y ago
Haha..I love debating with you. Your hyperbole gets even better. >"Why should birthplace of a person be allowed as a criteria for discrimination." Because that is the law of the land and it is fair since the number of green cards are allotted EQUALLY to all countries [1]. We just happen to be from a country where there are more number of applicants than green cards available. If it were discriminatory, why did the EB priority dates of China move up multiple years? It's because the EB applications from Chinese nationals have dropped considerably, not because the US is suddenly schmoozing to Chinese nationals. > "you never heard of families under strain because 6 years into their Green Card application they had to suddenly leave" Life events happen (do you expect your life to be smooth sailing?) and you have to take decisions based on it. Let me tell you something, H1B is way way more permissive than work visas in most of Europe and Middle East. Chew on that for a minute. > "Or where someone on OPT couldn't leave to visit their dying parents" This cannot be a regular occurrence. Again, this is hyperbole. > "Or families torn apart. All that means nothing?" Were you kidnapped from your family and brought to the US in a shipping container with 100's of other people? All of us "left our families" and came here with our own FREE WILL. No one brought you here against your free will. I use "I" because these are my opinions and I don't speak for anyone else. I definitely do not empathize with hyperbole, I can tell you that :) Please read the link below before passing judgments on hearsay. [1] http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit
- Nutmog 11y ago
  > Because that is the law of the land and it is fair since... By the argument, any legal discrimination that blankets entire groups of people with the same random chance is right and fair. Slavery - OK as long as blacks kidnapped from any African country were treated equally. Segregation - OK as long as blacks anywhere in America got the same treatment. It sounds like a wind-up, but really immigration discrimination is just like race or gender discrimination. It's not fair. The difference is that popular culture hasn't graced it with its wand of disapproval so most people can't recognize it.
  - ashwinaj 11y ago
    How about actually finishing my quote? Please explain to me how a 7% cap per year on all countries is discriminatory and not fair? As I've mentioned earlier to secondtimeuse, please don't compare the challenges of H1B workers to events in which people were actually murdered or lived in fear of their death. It's ridiculous.
- secondtimeuse 11y ago
  Dude you are seriously retarded if you don't realize the discrimination. Here is the article by The Hill that lays out the case and how it affects Indians , Chinese and people from Philippines. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/259076-why-does-the-us-discriminate-against-immigrants-from-big http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/259076-why... http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/5/13/grass-greener-eb-immigration/ http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/5/13/grass-greener-eb...
  - ashwinaj 11y ago
    If I'm retarded, please explain to me how a 7% cap per year on all countries is discriminatory and not fair? Would you propose 50% or 100% going to India? That would be discriminatory to other countries. Stop being emotional and falling for arguments that favor your point of view.
    - 11y ago

ashwinaj 11y ago

Haha..I love debating with you. Your hyperbole gets even better. >"Why should birthplace of a person be allowed as a criteria for discrimination." Because that is the law of the land and it is fair since the number of green cards are allotted EQUALLY to all countries [1]. We just happen to be from a country where there are more number of applicants than green cards available. If it were discriminatory, why did the EB priority dates of China move up multiple years? It's because the EB applications from Chinese nationals have dropped considerably, not because the US is suddenly schmoozing to Chinese nationals. > "you never heard of families under strain because 6 years into their Green Card application they had to suddenly leave" Life events happen (do you expect your life to be smooth sailing?) and you have to take decisions based on it. Let me tell you something, H1B is way way more permissive than work visas in most of Europe and Middle East. Chew on that for a minute. > "Or where someone on OPT couldn't leave to visit their dying parents" This cannot be a regular occurrence. Again, this is hyperbole. > "Or families torn apart. All that means nothing?" Were you kidnapped from your family and brought to the US in a shipping container with 100's of other people? All of us "left our families" and came here with our own FREE WILL. No one brought you here against your free will. I use "I" because these are my opinions and I don't speak for anyone else. I definitely do not empathize with hyperbole, I can tell you that :) Please read the link below before passing judgments on hearsay. [1] http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit

Nutmog 11y ago
> Because that is the law of the land and it is fair since... By the argument, any legal discrimination that blankets entire groups of people with the same random chance is right and fair. Slavery - OK as long as blacks kidnapped from any African country were treated equally. Segregation - OK as long as blacks anywhere in America got the same treatment. It sounds like a wind-up, but really immigration discrimination is just like race or gender discrimination. It's not fair. The difference is that popular culture hasn't graced it with its wand of disapproval so most people can't recognize it.
- ashwinaj 11y ago
  How about actually finishing my quote? Please explain to me how a 7% cap per year on all countries is discriminatory and not fair? As I've mentioned earlier to secondtimeuse, please don't compare the challenges of H1B workers to events in which people were actually murdered or lived in fear of their death. It's ridiculous.
secondtimeuse 11y ago
Dude you are seriously retarded if you don't realize the discrimination. Here is the article by The Hill that lays out the case and how it affects Indians , Chinese and people from Philippines. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/259076-why-does-the-us-discriminate-against-immigrants-from-big http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/259076-why... http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/5/13/grass-greener-eb-immigration/ http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/5/13/grass-greener-eb...
- ashwinaj 11y ago
  If I'm retarded, please explain to me how a 7% cap per year on all countries is discriminatory and not fair? Would you propose 50% or 100% going to India? That would be discriminatory to other countries. Stop being emotional and falling for arguments that favor your point of view.
  - 11y ago